# Mizhir and Melisma Shipping/Catfight Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669 "2019-06-25T13:38:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/181 "2019-07-08T19:54:49Z")
> [@Argos\_Gelert](#): > > private exhibition Hawt. Somewhere in the madness, there seems to be an incorrect idea that has developed: that Constantin stepped down from the match or was unwilling to participate, or is otherwise the reason for the match’s cancellation. He is not. In order for the match to go on, both Constantin as well as Utari would have to be replaced, and Mizhir has stated that she won’t fight if Utari doesn’t. That’s the crux of the conundrum right now. If Mizhir finds that a fight between you (Argos) and someone else would be good enough, then that’ll be fantastic. Personally, I would love to see you wrestle someone in a mud pit. ---
**Author:** ![Lithara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lithara/32/268412_2.png) [@Lithara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lithara)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/182 "2019-07-08T20:06:00Z")
> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > Somewhere in the madness, there seems to be an incorrect idea that has developed: that Constantin stepped down from the match or was unwilling to participate, or is otherwise the reason for the match’s cancellation. He is not. Having talked to Utari, who said he was eager to fight, I don’t actually believe that the problem is not on Constantin’s end. There’s been a lot of opacity going on through this whole process, and I fully believe that someone back channeled on his behalf. Let’s not mention that you’re not only fighting, but running the fight. That’s not conducive to a good sporting event. Hand it over to someone else (I don’t care who), and take Corovid out of this. So, if Miz won’t fight without Utari, and Corovid is what is keeping that from happening, seems like Corovid is the problem, not Utari. ---
**Author:** ![Catherine\_Gillot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/catherine_gillot/32/209654_2.png) [@Catherine\_Gillot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Catherine_Gillot)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/183 "2019-07-08T20:08:31Z")
> [@Mizhir](#): > > > [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > > > Thus Corovid’s leadership has independently made the decision to remove the match between Utari Onzo and Constantin Baracca from the roster. > > If Utari isn’t fighting. Neither am I. Same! I am not going to just sit here and let Corovid objectify the female body and tweak the event to cater for some cis-het male gaze. ---
**Author:** ![Argos\_Gelert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/argos_gelert/32/224986_2.png) [@Argos\_Gelert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Argos_Gelert)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/184 "2019-07-08T20:09:25Z")
> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > Personally, I would love to see you wrestle someone in a mud pit. Even if your Event is unable to proceed, as this is seemingly something that you would like to see, I am absolutely positive that this much, at least, can certainly be arranged. Perhaps that private exhibition that you found so potentially enticing could actually be reality. ---
**Author:** ![Lithara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lithara/32/268412_2.png) [@Lithara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lithara)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/185 "2019-07-08T20:18:17Z")
I think we need to hear from Utari and Constantin directly. @Utari_Onzo @Constantin_Baracca We want to hear form you! What do **you** think about your being pulled from the event? ---
**Author:** ![Constantin\_Baracca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/constantin_baracca/32/170074_2.png) [@Constantin\_Baracca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Constantin_Baracca)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/186 "2019-07-08T20:24:23Z")
I defer entirely to Melisma in this case, and will only reiterate what she has stated previously in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/187 "2019-07-08T20:30:24Z")
I’m assuming it was a corporate ‘hey can you not mudwrestle, you’re going to embarrass us’ thing. ---
**Author:** ![Lyra\_North-Onren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lyra_north-onren/32/294285_2.png) [@Lyra\_North-Onren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lyra_North-Onren)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/188 "2019-07-08T20:52:02Z")
> [@Argos\_Gelert](#): > > Perhaps that private exhibition that you found so potentially enticing could actually be reality. I know you’re just trying to be fun and joke around but it’s coming off as _meccha_ thirsty right now and it’s kinda making my skin crawl. ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/189 "2019-07-09T00:30:48Z")
> [@Lithara](#): > > Let’s not mention that you’re not only fighting, but running the fight. That’s not conducive to a good sporting event. This has been the case for all of the few weeks that the competition has been in existence, but it’s only a problem now that I did a thing you don’t like. > [@Lithara](#): > > seems like Corovid is the problem, not Utari. I have literally said that the cancellation was all Corovid’s doing, so you are literally agreeing with me here. I’ve also never said that it was Utari’s doing. > [@Catherine\_Gillot](#): > > Same! I am not going to just sit here and let Corovid objectify the female body and tweak the event to cater for some cis-het male gaze. like wtf is even happening here. Before you go around making stupid comments like this, maybe go check your facts. **I am Corovid**. I am also openly, blessedly pansexual, and definitely not male. The only other interstellar employee of Corovid is my closest friend/ex-■■■■ buddy, who is also pan. I’m not sure if you were going for comedy or armchair activism or what here, but the only thing you’ve succeeded in doing is pissing me off. The event’s _definitely_ cancelled now, btw. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/190 "2019-07-09T01:03:52Z")
> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > The event’s _definitely_ cancelled now, btw. Does this mean we can skip straight to the afterparty, by the way? Or is the afterparty also cancelled? I wanted to stop by and make new friends :((( ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/191 "2019-07-09T01:06:18Z")
Afterparty is totally ■■■■■■■ on. ---
**Author:** ![Lithara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lithara/32/268412_2.png) [@Lithara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lithara)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/192 "2019-07-09T01:19:11Z")
> [@Constantin\_Baracca](#): > > I defer entirely to Melisma in this case, and will only reiterate what she has stated previously in this thread. I can smell political bull shite when it shows up. > [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > This has been the case for all of the few weeks that the competition has been in existence, but it’s only a problem now that I did a thing you don’t like. Honestly, I didn’t know that Corovid was hosting this event until Corovid cancelled Utari’s fight. And, Mel, babe that’s a pretty unpopular choice, from looking at this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/193 "2019-07-09T01:28:33Z")
> [@Lithara](#): > > Honestly, I didn’t know that Corovid was hosting this event until Corovid cancelled Utari’s fight. > [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > Corovid Industries is proud to announce that we have opened sales for tickets to a mud-wrestling match, Dr. Mizhir Devara versus Melisma Ramijozana. Tickets 10,000 isk in advance, 20,000 at the door, with a 75% discount for anyone who walks in wearing a #TeamMel t-shirt. That’s from two weeks ago, the very second post in this topic referring to mud wrestling. > [@Lithara](#): > > And, Mel, babe that’s a pretty unpopular choice, from looking at this thread. Then you’re more than welcome to try your own hand at setting up this fight. ---
**Author:** ![Lithara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lithara/32/268412_2.png) [@Lithara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lithara)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/194 "2019-07-09T01:59:37Z")
Well! You can’t blame me for not reading the IGS posts closely. (I mean, you totally can. But please don’t.) ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/195 "2019-07-09T03:18:08Z")
> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#): > > I’ve also never said that it was Utari’s doing. No, but you _did_ say that both of them would have to be replaced. If Utari’s still willing to do it, why would he need to be replaced? ---
**Author:** ![Utari\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utari_onzo/32/378493_2.png) [@Utari\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utari_Onzo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/196 "2019-07-09T06:08:37Z")
I would respectfully ask that people not blame the organisers for the cancellation, matters have spun out of their hands by forces out of their control. My pot offer still stands. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/197 "2019-07-09T06:09:46Z")
I’m not assigning blame, I’m asking for a clarification of something that was said. ---
**Author:** ![Lithara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lithara/32/268412_2.png) [@Lithara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lithara)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/198 "2019-07-09T14:08:57Z")
See, “forces out of their control” sounds a lot different than ‘a poll said it would be unpopular.’ Given everything that was said here so far, I am fairly certain that Constantin decided to bail. Then he whined to the right people to cover for him. The more certain people protest to the contrary, the more they come up with other justifications, the more I think I am right. Constantin is a pusillanimous, little bitch who is trying to squirm his way out of the fight. Change my mind. And people reported this. Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/199 "2019-07-09T14:18:00Z")
You really have no ■■■■■■■ idea what you’re talking about. He was _quite_ into it. Despite the disagreement of those of us who considered it quite an undignified spectacle for someone of his and Sir Utari’s positions to be participating in. Of course, it’s really no wonder a blooder such as yourself is so upset by this decision. Now you don’t get to see a bunch of Amarr making fools of themselves. You’ll just have to go roll around in the mud yourself if you’re so eager. ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669/200 "2019-07-09T14:51:41Z")
> [@Lithara](#): > > See, “forces out of their control” sounds a lot different than ‘a poll said it would be unpopular.’ These two things can both be correct. > [@Lithara](#): > > Given everything that was said here so far, I am fairly certain that Constantin decided to bail. You’ve already blamed Corovid (me) for everything, so which is it? I honestly have already said too much; actually explaining everything would kind of nullify the point of my original bullshitting. I’ll simply point out that within the past 24 hours, someone posted in this very thread with the correct interpretation of events, but the remark has been mostly overlooked. > [@Lithara](#): > > Constantin is a pusillanimous, little ■■■■■ ■■■■■ fite me. I’ll do it for free. > **** > > You’re still hot, though. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mizhir-and-melisma-shipping-catfight-thread/169669.md?page=11)