# Moderation of the Forums **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/239 "2020-06-01T07:09:30Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > If rules are enforced less, there will be more people engaging in disturbing behavior. If rules are enforced more, there will be less people engaging in productive behavior. It’s a two way street… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/240 "2020-06-01T07:17:02Z")
But productive behavior, not breaking social norms, is not being restricted by moderation rules. So how can it be less of it? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/241 "2020-06-01T07:17:47Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > But productive behavior, not offending social norms, is not being restricted by moderation rules. Its being restricted by them not being enforced in some cases though. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/242 "2020-06-01T07:19:20Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > by them not being enforced Them? What do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/243 "2020-06-01T07:19:42Z")
Yes, the rules ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/244 "2020-06-01T07:23:38Z")
Ah, like when people are scared to write something thats disturbing and breaking the not-official-rules that some forum dwellers try to set up instead of listening to moderation caused by reduced enforcing of the forum rules? I think the honest, polite discussion, in the spirit of mutual respect to different opinion is more productive. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/245 "2020-06-01T07:25:39Z")
I think more when there’s a good topic and two or more people turn it into an argument and reasonable suggestions are steamrollered. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/246 "2020-06-01T07:31:44Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > not breaking social norms But YOU don’t set the norms…CCP does and they seem fine with things so it really looks like it’s you with the problem, not us or CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/247 "2020-06-01T07:44:06Z")
I think the forum can always go two ways, like reddit, where some norms emerge freely, all the oposition is being reduced by the downvotes, or like this forum, where norm is to be more inclusive and both sides can express themselves with moderation being aware that some people will try to hijack it like in reddit, where instead of discussing the topic, sides will want to squash the opposing side by being disruptive instead of downvotes. Forum wars, advanced. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/248 "2020-06-01T21:48:13Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > I get banned pretty regularly on the D3 forum for calling out people in my subtle way that aren’t half as toxic as most that post here. Though just as stupid. The mods are real sticklers over “personal attacks” unlike this forum. Here’s how bad the D3 forums are. I just got another vacation for politely inquiring as to when the forum had turned into such a bunch of whiny Karens. Think about that next time you want to complain about how harsh the mods are here. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/249 "2020-06-01T21:50:24Z")
@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode have the talks begun yet on rivising forum policy on discussion of moderation? ie. restricting prohibition to discussion of moderation of other players or something similar? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/250 "2020-06-01T21:52:51Z")
No? It’s a holiday today. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/251 "2020-06-01T21:54:35Z")
You were supposed to begin talks the instant it was brought up!!! They should cut your salary in half… :aura: ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/252 "2020-06-01T21:55:29Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/6/7601f6c32d72c03369d28264ab93c19614ce7919.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/253 "2020-06-02T01:07:13Z")
> [@Matt\_Spangher](#): > > The idea that we will self-regulate won’t work because the self-declared regulators will be forum obsessives who will brutalise anyone they disagree with. The irony is that we have swung further toward this ‘brutalising’ after the ISD’s have gotten their new powers. They are now being frequently and publicly summoned with the expectation to do something rather than people just using the report function and leaving it at that. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/254 "2020-06-02T01:26:16Z")
Maybe that’s why they added another member? To keep up with the upticks in demand? They seemed to be doing fine before. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/255 "2020-06-02T06:26:18Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > cut your salary in half That would change nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximilian_wulffe/32/210326_2.png) [@Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximilian_Wulffe)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/256 "2020-06-02T07:40:11Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > That would change nothing /woosh ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/257 "2020-06-02T14:15:25Z")
We added more members because people keep applying. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![J\_Poll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j_poll/32/228940_2.png) [@J\_Poll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/J_Poll)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/258 "2020-06-03T15:24:48Z")
@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode thanks for keeping this thread open. I know in the past I wasn’t always as happy with the ISD moderation but this is very good how it is done now. Civil discussions with careful moderation Keep up the good work, this goes for all the ISDs [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=13)