# Moderation of the Forums **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/259 "2020-06-04T07:06:39Z")
In a similar way to the above message from @J_Poll, I’ve had issues with moderation in the past but I am ( _as the originator of the [Moderation of the Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360)’ post_ ) very grateful to @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode for taking a positive and trusting step by not closing down the thread. I just hope people on this forum respect his rationale and don’t screw it up, for all of us, by posting stuff that will get this thread shut down. I hope this thread gives all of us a chance to intelligently and articulately discuss the theme of the post in an adult way that doesn’t personalise it, attack individuals or malign entire groups of people in broad sweeping statements, eg: all of the moderators. Especially since one of them, ( _@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode_ ) has been brave enough to give us the chance to discuss the issues as long as people keep it polite and reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Zheckarr\_Zateki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zheckarr_zateki/32/415101_2.png) [@Zheckarr\_Zateki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zheckarr_Zateki)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/260 "2020-07-26T22:00:27Z")
Hello good sir @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode. I didn’t know how to contact you for an appeal and this is the best way I found. You removed my comment [here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wts-thons-modified-cruise-missile-launcher-x2/249500/21) on the basis that is was “off topic”. Why is advertising the same item for sale considered “off-topic”? As far as I’m aware, there are no rules against it as it complies with every forum guideline. I did not break any forum rules. Here is an example: There are countless comments on person A’s sales ad pointing out that the item for sale is cheaper on person B’s sales ad. How is me pointing out that I have that item for sale cheaper than person A all of a sudden “off-topic”? If anything, I’m not clogging up the page with the exact same post that we both bump once a day. Kindly return my comments. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/261 "2020-07-26T22:03:33Z")
After reviewing the situation, you did not have a sales thread up for that item, so that counts as spam. Feel free to create you own sales thread for an item you are selling. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/262 "2020-07-26T22:19:35Z")
So while this thread is somewhat of a necro, I’d like to say 2 things: 1. That I agree with all of the OP’s points 2. Your response above is exactly the kind of thing we need to see more of on the forums. That is to say, instead of shutting something down with a rules copy-pasta and preventing all discussion, it’s nice to be able to publicly reach out to a mod and actually get a real, live response about forum moderation, and even possibly appeal a decision. I hope that CCP understands that many of us find a “no further discussion” style of moderation extremely frustrating. Similarly, threads that are derailed shouldn’t be closed, but cleaned, and the trolls warned. Otherwise, it’s possibly to shut down opposing viewpoints just by getting mods to end a discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/263 "2020-07-26T22:21:13Z")
Go easy on Bastylody, he’s an ISD newb and the least valued of them all. He doesn’t know any better. 🤪 Edit: I agree with your points 🧐 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/264 "2020-07-26T22:24:33Z")
I mean I basically just complimented him. CCP needs to revisit the “no discussion of moderation” policy. It makes the forums feel really oppressive sometimes. If someone starts attacking staff for any reason, those people should be handled individually. It’s just the right thing to do. In fact, I’d go a step further, and even allow trolling and rants, as long as they’re cordial. If someone makes a funny but non-serious thread, or has some kind of frustration they need to vent, why not allow it? Hell, make it official, and tag the threads with something like [Rant] or [Comedy] instead of closing them. Players will be happier, and if players are happy, CCP is too. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/265 "2020-07-26T22:27:02Z")
As one of the ISD Leads, Barstorlode is the most tolerant of the discussion and explicitly says “I’m going to let this convo keep going but I’m keeping an eye on it”. I remember once a different ISD closed the thread but reopened it after he realized Barstorlode had it under watch But that does remind me… @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode some time ago you said CCP-ISD were discussing revising the “Discussion of Moderation” policy - anything emerge from that? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/266 "2020-07-26T22:27:44Z")
Not quite yet. There are a bunch of projects we’re currently working on, and I’m holding my cards close to my chest. Also my official title is Senior Team Lead. All of CCL falls under my purview. The old title was cooler and got the point across better I think. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/267 "2020-07-26T22:29:41Z")
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh so you’re the the King of Kings, I thought you were one of many 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/268 "2020-07-26T22:30:25Z")
I don’t bring it up often but it is a point that does need bringing up every so often. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/269 "2020-07-26T22:31:10Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > my official title is Senior Team Lead. im a princess ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/270 "2020-07-26T22:31:56Z")
…understated just like in that documentary that recently came out: “Former Chicago Resident” Barack Obama… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/275 "2020-07-26T22:44:44Z")
Keep it on topic. Only warning I’m giving. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/276 "2020-07-26T22:47:49Z")
Can we get a dedicated subsection for forum poop? You won’t have to give nearly as many warnings if we have a place where we can be idiots without any restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/277 "2020-07-26T22:48:04Z")
I’ll see what can be done. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/278 "2020-07-26T22:50:14Z")
Sometimes I feel like Dorrim keeps tossing me back into the Crime & Punishment forum. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/279 "2020-07-26T23:00:50Z")
Let us come up with a creative name for it. Something like “The Tear Bucket” or “Clone Jump Malfunction Victim Day Care Center”. ^ C&P is only somewhat of a place for that, because we’re still expected to be at least _partially_ in character over there. Just a place where we can jovially troll each other (no personal attacks or anything or anything like that, though) would do wonders for the forums. There’s a **lot** of wit on these forums compared to many others, and it’s a shame that it gets lost from locks and such in serious discussions. Anyways, thanks, please see what you can do. Don’t take _too_ long, because I’m really backed up on my comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/280 "2020-07-26T23:01:32Z")
Kruul’s Pleasure Garden ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/281 "2020-07-26T23:09:28Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Don’t take _too_ long, because I’m really backed up on my comedy. I hope you mean watching it. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/282 "2020-07-26T23:11:57Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Can we get a dedicated subsection for forum poop? There already is one. Go RP there and knock yourself out. Take the other CODE actors with you. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=14)