# Moderation of the Forums

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/618 "2020-08-03T20:56:36Z")

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> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#):
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> Don’t mind me, I’m just nudging the ‘team’ I want to ‘win’ in this skirmish

And just exactly what team is that?

EDIT:  
Never mind, after considering the names you tagged and looking at the LIKES you dispense, I now know what team you’re referring to.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/619 "2020-08-03T20:56:53Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> > If I get sanctioned for those posts, pretty much every single active poster on these forums will have to accompany me to the gulag.
> 
> I’m down with that.
> 
> Also, trying to defend yourself by saying you are as bad as everybody else is kind of weird.

Then you’ve misunderstood. What I meant is that my posts are _at least_ benign enough to be in line with the normalized mean. Just because I write creatively doesn’t mean I’m EVE forum ISIL.

Also, do keep in mind that I’ve never had my posts deleted, or even (aside from one a few weeks ago) _hidden_, except in cases where a thread gets cleaned in big chunks. I believe that _most_ people, including the mods, understand that despite being edgy, I’m actually sincere, and that’s what matters to me.

Also, I believe that the reason the four or so of you have _instantly_ labeled my proposal as a troll without trying to address it in any way or form is because it downright _terrifies_ you.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/620 "2020-08-03T20:58:39Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Furthermore you purposely went to that thread and initiated an altercation with me.

What? You were the one that started interacting with me. I had a discussion with Zoiie about something from another thread, then you jumped into the convo.

> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> Are we still speculating whether I’m an alt of a certain someone?
> 
> Look at who actually initiated the exchange. I was arguing with Zoiie about an incident in another thread. We finished that argument, then DMC responded to the last post in that discussion. So DMC was the one initiating, yet he somehow feels I’m the one “stalking” him? I haven’t talked with DMC before this. Can’t really see how I’m the instigator, when he initiated the whole thing.
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> People are honestly insanely paranoid in here.

At least get the facts right…

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/621 "2020-08-03T21:00:21Z")

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What proposal?

You blather. Constantly. 90% of what you post is because of your pathological need to have the last word.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/622 "2020-08-03T21:00:39Z")

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Case in point.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/623 "2020-08-03T21:01:16Z")

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Case in point.

Checkmate.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/624 "2020-08-03T21:03:18Z")

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_Do you like pina colonics  
And getting caught in the rain  
If you’re not into yoga  
If you have half a brain  
If you like making love at midnight  
In the dunes on the cape  
Then I’m the love that you’ve looked for  
Write to me, and escape_

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**Author:** ![Noel\_Fonulique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noel_fonulique/32/221447_2.png) [@Noel\_Fonulique](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noel_Fonulique)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/625 "2020-08-03T21:04:20Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Also, I believe that the reason the four or so of you have _instantly_ labeled my proposal as a troll without trying to address it in any way or form is because it downright _terrifies_ you.

I did not label it as a troll, I actually said it was an example of why these forums are messed up. You and players like you seem to feel that because you are old players who only truly understand this game that you have to police anyone else that has a different viewpoint and aggressively so. That post was just confirmation of your mind set and why these forums are so nasty.

edit - I defined it as a bait post, and it was a truly epic one at that, but it really exposed the mind set which defines the conflict on this forum.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/626 "2020-08-03T21:04:31Z")

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I have disengaged, I’m simply observing the dumpster fire and waiting for the fire department to turn up. Aside from my ISD hell comment my last post in this thread was hours ago.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/627 "2020-08-03T21:09:29Z")

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> [@Noel\_Fonulique](#):
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> > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> > Also, I believe that the reason the four or so of you have _instantly_ labeled my proposal as a troll without trying to address it in any way or form is because it downright _terrifies_ you.
> 
> I did not label it as a troll, I actually said it was an example of why these forums are messed up. You and players like you seem to feel that because you are old players who only truly understand this game that you have to police anyone else that has a different viewpoint and aggressively so. That post was just confirmation of your mind set and why these forums are so nasty.

This is literally what you said about my proposal:

> Now this is a wonderfully worked bait post, perhaps the best one I have ever seen, you pulled all the levers too. Wonderful stuff, you really are a master of your craft, I am going to like it because I have never seen one done so perfectly. I am in awe.

Am I on television right now? This can’t be real, right?

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**Author:** ![Noel\_Fonulique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noel_fonulique/32/221447_2.png) [@Noel\_Fonulique](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noel_Fonulique)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/628 "2020-08-03T21:10:10Z")

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OK I did then, it was an amazing bait post. But on second thoughts that is not calling it a troll is it?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/629 "2020-08-03T21:10:39Z")

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> [@Noel\_Fonulique](#):
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> OK I did then, it was an amazing bait post.

■■■■ me.

Quoting this for posterity.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/630 "2020-08-03T21:13:40Z")

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> [@Noel\_Fonulique](#):
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> But on second thoughts that is not calling it a troll is it?

Question from the gallery:

What craft is it that the honorable lady referred to some moments before if not the Art of Trole?

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/631 "2020-08-03T21:17:25Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> gallery

I may join you as I made the mistake of not giving Destiny an “out”. He’s too smart to get caught trying to last word me now.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/632 "2020-08-03T21:20:07Z")

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Its a great spot. I snuck in booze.

You can see down Destiny’s top from up here.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/633 "2020-08-03T21:20:19Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> I have disengaged, I’m simply observing the dumpster fire and waiting for the fire department to turn up. Aside from my ISD hell comment my last post in this thread was hours ago.

I think I’m going to follow your lead. I’ve said the important piece, and responding to attacks and provocations isn’t a debate anyway.

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**Author:** ![Noel\_Fonulique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noel_fonulique/32/221447_2.png) [@Noel\_Fonulique](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noel_Fonulique)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/634 "2020-08-03T21:29:19Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> What craft is it that the honorable lady referred to some moments before if not the Art of Trole?

It was not a simple troll, it was a finely crafted bait post of a magnitude very few people could pull off. I certainly couldn’t. I did not call it a troll because it did not deserve to be simply defined as a troll, it was that good.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/635 "2020-08-03T21:31:53Z")

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For the record, are you are saying it was perhaps an uber-troll, but a troll none-the-less?

Just to be sure Im following things here.

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**Author:** ![Noel\_Fonulique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noel_fonulique/32/221447_2.png) [@Noel\_Fonulique](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noel_Fonulique)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/636 "2020-08-03T21:37:38Z")

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What I am trying to say and what I tried to say from the start in a clumsy way is that I did not call it a troll because it was such a finely crafted bait post.

What I liked about it was that it defined the issue of these forums perhaps unconsciously. Which is that there are certain long term players who see it as their absolute right to go after any players who have a different opinion to them on their game and because of that they can be as nasty as they want.

These forums will always be deeply unpleasant for most people because most of the posters here have that attitude. It is why the quote that the ISD send to people who get a rap on the knuckles as detailed by White Knight 2B is so laughable.

Still at least I worked out what the issue is with these forums in a very short time, mission accomplished. I think with that I best get out of here. It is too bitter and nasty for me period.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/637 "2020-08-03T21:39:13Z")

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Interesting. Thank you for that response.

> [@Noel\_Fonulique](#):
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> These forums will always be deeply unpleasant for most people

That I certainly agree with.

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