# Moderation of the Forums

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/658 "2020-08-04T09:12:30Z")

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It is actually an interesting discussion. It looks like their mission statement or objective is in direct conflict with the main group of posters on the forums. If I was in their shoes I would be digesting that with a certain amount of trepidation and concern. Personally I expect them to roll over and give in, it is not as if they are paid.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> It is strange. Though have to say in general the forums seem quieter than ever. But summer and all that I guess.

Well most people no longer care what a load of raving PvP sociopaths think (using Jonah’s words.)

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> TL;DR Eve is dying 😉

The forums are.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/659 "2020-08-04T09:21:33Z")

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> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#):
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> the main group of posters

Care to define that category?

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**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/660 "2020-08-04T09:24:20Z")

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I think it is obvious.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/661 "2020-08-04T09:25:02Z")

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And therefore, no, you choose not to.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/662 "2020-08-04T09:32:34Z")

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> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#):
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> Well most people no longer care what a load of raving PvP sociopaths think (using Jonah’s words.)

Just to clarify, those words were used in jest.

Some people consider anybody that PvP’s, especially in hisec, to be a sociopath. All the while ignoring the fact that CCP consider Eve to be an open world game where PvP can happen anywhere, even in hisec.

Statistically speaking it is guaranteed that some PvP players are sociopaths, just as some non PvP players are; both groups will also contain psychopaths, egoists, altruists, and every other descriptor that is used to describe human behaviour.

This is true of every game out there and of life in general.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/663 "2020-08-04T09:49:14Z")

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Maybe the team hasn’t got around to drawing straws to see who will deal with the mess.  
Or, they could be patiently watching, taking names, waiting to strike when we least expect.

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**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/664 "2020-08-04T09:51:58Z")

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My bet is closing the thread.

#gothatwrong

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/665 "2020-08-04T09:52:56Z")

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They could be organising a thunderdome bracket to see who gets to wield CCP Guard’s mighty banhammer. Two men enter, one man leaves.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/6/c6a4a6123555fcdbd01e7d69dff3363eeb97d62c.jpeg)

My money’s on Buldath, he has previous form.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/666 "2020-08-04T13:55:45Z")

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You all are being trolled by the ISDs in this thread… just saying. 😛 😉

I bet they just laugh at all of your suffering and back and forth in this thread, harvesting all the salt for themselves while getting a reason to hand out some warnings and potential bans as a cherry on top. 😈

You all have been played. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/667 "2020-08-04T15:41:59Z")

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> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#):
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> Just catching up, so Destinty\_Corrupted is Lady\_Spank. That figures.

This is very good news for Spank, because she was always telling me how she envied me because I was the cuter one.

I wonder if we can get CCP to, like, send an e-mail, because I unfortunately don’t have any contact information.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/668 "2020-08-04T15:55:24Z")

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Wait, you’re Lady Spank and Linus Gorp?

Does that make you Mittens, James 315 and Chribba too?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/669 "2020-08-04T15:58:57Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Answering a question with a question, how drole.
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> Do you have anything funny or informative to say?
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> Even on topic perhaps?
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> Or is this an example of a “warm and friendly environment” you are generating as your peers like to talk about?
> 
> Note you arent required to respond.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/c/3c34ce4435f885a907b1c1626d9d7439f3a6c3a1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/670 "2020-08-04T16:01:53Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Wait, you’re Lady Spank and Linus Gorp?
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> Does that make you Mittens, James 315 and Chribba too?

Don’t forget Istvaan Shogaatsu.

You people need to realize that this is **my** world, and you’re just living in it.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/671 "2020-08-04T16:13:18Z")

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Never said I wasnt, Mike, but there aint no one here who is innocent of that.

Not one.

Also, kudos if thats an OT cap of old Palpy

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/672 "2020-08-04T16:13:54Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Istvaan Shogaatsu.

The Guiding Hand Social Club story was what sparked my interest sometime in 2006, something about Eve kept dragging me back through several trials over 3 years, and then it clicked in 2009.

> You people need to realize that this is **my** world, and you’re just living in it.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/8/380808d598f62e3e7cb5d711ab29e79db6f0e21d.gif)

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/673 "2020-08-04T18:46:33Z")

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Hi folks! I’m not going to remove any posts, but keep it on topic. No more warnings. I think we all know what the next step entails.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/674 "2020-08-04T18:57:02Z")

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> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#):
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> I’m not going to remove any posts, but keep it on topic.

Weird. Most of the posts I’ve had removed were actually on topic. All the ones where I’m just being a dick to other people who are being dicks are still standing proud for everyone to read.

This will likely be removed as it is on topic.

You know:

> [@Thread title](#):
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> Moderation of the Forums

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/675 "2020-08-04T21:16:04Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> dicks are still standing proud

Obscenity/!

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/676 "2020-08-04T23:34:29Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> Weird. Most of the posts I’ve had removed were actually on topic.

It seems that replies, even if on-topic, may get deleted if the post it was a reply to, gets deleted.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/677 "2020-08-05T02:06:07Z")

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On topic.

There are two types of moderation.

The first is people that are paid to do the job. People that know how to moderate. People with a good resume and work history with references that can be checked. People that have a paying gig on the line if they get caught playing favorites or playing fast and loose with the rules they are told to enforce. People with no attachment to the game who’s forum they are being hired to moderate. People that are less likely to cross a line because it’s a job, not a meta game. Someone with a manager keeping an eye on him since it’s his ass if the guy screws up. A manager that doesn’t ignore the forum and its moderators because he’s spending all his time on Reddit and Twitter flexing for upvotes and retweets.

Then you have the second type.

Some yahoo pulled from the game that may or may not have any moderating experience but will work for free. Someone with huge implicit bias due to the years playing whatever part of the game he was playing. A guy who sees his former corp mates and current friends posting and hating that they are being obliterated by some other poster. Someone that might let a nasty post slide because the person writing it is always telling him how special he is and what a great mod he is. A person that may take advantage of the lack of oversight that happens with a volunteer workforce. A guy that knows it’s no biggie if he gets caught doing dirty and is punished by…what?..going back to play the game full time?

Now. About the three of you who are angrily pounding your keyboard into a big plastic pancake and crying about how you are loved and I’m just butt hurt. Read on a little bit longer. Back in the old forum, on one of my previous forum characters, I had an ISD who apparently loved me. It was embarrassing how he kept coming to my defence all the time. I didn’t say anything to him because I had no idea who he formerly was. Might have been my freakin’ brother for all I knew. But I did know one thing. Like some of you do now, I could push the envelope and get away with it.

You could PM back in those days and I’d get questioned all the time by other forum warriors about what the ■■■■ was up with this guy. I had no answer. All I could say is that it wasn’t good. I still think it isn’t good.

That list of rules applies to everyone and should be enforced against everyone equally. Type one moderators will do it. Type two moderators might do it.

Not passing judgment. Just putting this out there.

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