# Moderation of the Forums **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/678 "2020-08-05T02:39:01Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > Now, about the three of you who are angrily pounding your keyboard into a big plastic pancake and crying about how you are loved and I’m just butt hurt, read on a little bit longer. I think you’re reaching quite far with that, and it’s not really necessary. It was a perfectly good post (aside from this line, which takes away from the impartiality), and I doubt anyone’s going to have any major issues with it. If you posted like this _more_, and if you wanted to rib a forum rival, did it with wit and not the kind of hostility that makes you seem like an obsessed stalker, you’d be _everyone’s_ friend, and not just of the 2-3 people that agree with you because your underlying play styles mesh. What the watershed moment here _should_ be, but if I had to bet money on it, probably _won’t_, is the realization that your reasons, intent, and sincerity behind writing this post are no different than mine were when I wrote _my_ big post. > [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > Then you have the second type. > > Some yahoo pulled from the game that may or may not have any moderating experience but will work for free. Someone with huge implicit bias due to the years playing whatever part of the game he was playing. A guy who sees his former corp mates and current friends posting and hating that they are being obliterated by some other poster. Someone that might let things slide because the person writing it is always telling him how special and what a great mod he is. A person that may take advantage of the lack of oversight that happens with a volunteer workforce. A guy that knows it’s no biggie if he gets caught doing dirty and is punished by…what?..going back to play the game full time? Here’s the thing, though: that’s not what’s going on here. At least, I can be certain of that with regard to myself, and one other poster. I don’t personally know a single ISD. In fact, I’m quite apprehensive that if major action is taken against anyone in this thread, I could very well get hit alongside major actors like you and Noel, who _objectively_ (by own admission) deserve it, even though my stance has been predominantly defensive. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/679 "2020-08-05T03:46:06Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I don’t personally know a single ISD. In fact, I’m quite apprehensive that if major action is taken against anyone in this thread, I could very well get hit I try and have a laugh with them, but I wouldn’t expect or knowingly accept that informal relationship having any bearing when it comes to moderation. I mean, yeah I’ve posted some stuff in the past that blatantly broke the rules and should have earned me a two week holiday at CCP’s pleasure but didn’t, nor did it get moderated in one instance. I don’t know if it was not flagged or otherwise missed by them or someone read it, laughed their tits off at the content and promptly looked the other way, ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/680 "2020-08-05T03:52:21Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I don’t personally know a single ISD. How do you know? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/681 "2020-08-05T04:00:24Z")
Let me rephrase that: I am not aware that anyone I personally know is an ISD. Someone _could_ be, but I have no knowledge of that, and am not operating on these forums with any sort of assumption of preferential treatment. Also, I don’t _want_ any preferential treatment, just like I don’t want anyone’s posts hidden or deleted (with the exceptions being personal attacks of a racist or sexist nature, or real-life threats/doxxing). ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/682 "2020-08-05T06:09:57Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > In fact, I’m quite apprehensive that if major action is taken against anyone in this thread, I could very well get hit alongside major actors like you and Noel, who _objectively_ (by own admission) deserve it, even though my stance has been predominantly defensive. Well you obviously were not reading what was said above by that person, they found out why the forums are so bad and decided to go away. > [@Noel\_Fonulique](#): > > Still at least I worked out what the issue is with these forums in a very short time, mission accomplished. I think with that I best get out of here. It is too bitter and nasty for me period. But this was the killer: > [@Noel\_Fonulique](#): > > What I liked about it (_the bait post that Destiny wrote)_ was that it defined the issue of these forums perhaps unconsciously. Which is that there are certain long term players (_who play a certain way - PvP anywhere_) who see it as their absolute right to go after any players who have a different opinion to them on their game and because of that they can be as nasty as they want. > > These forums will always be deeply unpleasant for most people because most of the posters here have that attitude. It is why the quote that the ISD send to people who get a rap on the knuckles as detailed by White Knight 2B is so laughable. In effect it does not matter whether the ISD are great, indifferent, or appalling or biased or not, the issue is that the majority of people are like you. I also did a little test, I went and spoke to my alliance mates, twenty people, only one of them posted on the forums, I will get back to him in a minute, the rest of them do not go anywhere near the forums because it is not worth it and it is a dreadful place to discuss the game, they prefer to do it on Discord. The other guy only did it to take the hate on him to protect some innocents, but he just decided to stop doing it because hardly anyone new goes on the forums anyway. Well done, you won the Eve forums. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/683 "2020-08-05T06:26:13Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > In effect it does not matter whether the ISD are great, indifferent, or appalling or biased or not, the issue is that the majority of people are like you. > > I also did a little test, I went and spoke to my alliance mates, twenty people, only one of them posted on the forums, I will get back to him in a minute, the rest of them do not go anywhere near the forums because it is not worth it and it is a dreadful place to discuss the game, they prefer to do it on Discord. The other guy only did it to take the hate on him to protect some innocents, but he just decided to stop doing it because hardly anyone new goes on the forums anyway. > > Well done, you won the Eve forums. Most players of video games don’t post on the forums of those games. It’s like that for _any_ game. For the most part, it has nothing to do with the forums being “toxic” or whatever; most people just don’t care about forums, _period_. I don’t think it even gets to the point where “not worth it” and “dreadful place” are considerations. If I ask a friend why he won’t post on the forums, the response is simply “who gives a ■■■■?”, and not “who gives a ■■■■? it’s not like they’ll listen to me anyway” or “who gives a ■■■■? the place is too full of toxic jackals.” Yes, there will be some exceptions where people don’t like forums for very specific reasons, but mostly people don’t care because they’re too busy playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/684 "2020-08-05T06:44:04Z")
The forums are dead, period. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/685 "2020-08-05T06:45:10Z")
Time for you to leave then. ![Waving Queen Lizzy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/8/082299baeb3625972bf8aaffe13ba2a3de57f90d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/686 "2020-08-05T06:45:34Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > The forums are dead, period. You will have to quantify that conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/687 "2020-08-05T06:48:56Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Time for you to leave then. Already on it, or should I say not on it. I like that picture, she is smiling but obviously thnking I should wave to the plebs and smile and they will like me, I find her rather cute actually. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You will have to quantify that conclusion. Pretty easy to understand. Goodbye! ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/688 "2020-08-05T06:49:34Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > Now, about the three of you who are angrily pounding your keyboard into a big plastic pancake and crying about how you are loved and I’m just butt hurt, read on a little bit longer. Back in the old forum, on one of my previous forum characters, I had an ISD who apparently loved me. It was embarrassing how he kept coming to my defence all the time. I didn’t say anything to him because I had no idea who he formerly was. Might have been my freakin’ brother for all I knew. But I did know one thing. Like some of you do now, I could push the envelope and get away with it. They banned me so many times… But… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/8/489c6a755cac435bcda4d6cdd251ba62537e519c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/689 "2020-08-05T06:50:57Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > Already on it, Have a tiny “good riddance” for starters. Only when you’re really getting the ■■■■ out you deserve the “big one”. ![Good riddance_tiny](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/adbcb03d4ff0daa97308c7477eeebaf3273cc7ef.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/690 "2020-08-05T06:51:18Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > You will have to quantify that conclusion. > > Pretty easy to understand. Numbers. You need to provide some numbers. These forums have a few hundred daily posters. Is that not enough for you to consider them “alive”? How many are needed, then? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/691 "2020-08-05T06:52:07Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > > [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > > > Already on it, > > Have a tiny “good riddance” for starters. Only when you’re really getting the ■■■■ out you deserve the “big one”. > > ![Good riddance_tiny](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/adbcb03d4ff0daa97308c7477eeebaf3273cc7ef.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/0/00bc7bf8585d1a2a22004b38469242d4885a6a31.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/692 "2020-08-05T06:53:28Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/0/00bc7bf8585d1a2a22004b38469242d4885a6a31.jpeg) Next time bring the dough, or it is no good riddances for you any more. ![Good riddance_tiny](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/adbcb03d4ff0daa97308c7477eeebaf3273cc7ef.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/693 "2020-08-05T06:54:50Z")
Welp. Looks like you all completely forgot what Barstorlode said and got right back to off topic and bickering. Let me remind you. > [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > Hi folks! I’m not going to remove any posts, but keep it on topic. No more warnings. I think we all know what the next step entails. > > Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/694 "2020-08-05T06:56:14Z")
I believe we are still being on-topic (aside from the meme images that is, but I think that kind of off-topic is allowed in moderation). ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/695 "2020-08-05T06:56:53Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > but I think that kind of off-topic is allowed in moderation Of course you do. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/696 "2020-08-05T06:59:16Z")
Yes, I do. The question of whether or not the forums are acceptably active due to toxicity (and by effect, insufficient moderation) is a valid one, so I really don’t see your point there. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/697 "2020-08-05T07:01:02Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > meme images I only wanted to ilustrate my past struggles on forum with moderation, I am still doing my best being on topic… Actually being banned for a meme image hurts, and I was there… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=27) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=29)