# Moderation of the Forums

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1041 "2020-08-15T19:43:43Z")

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That’s a lie…

It NOT useful as it can be and IS abused by so many here it’s a pain in the ass…

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1042 "2020-08-15T19:44:16Z")

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Perhaps from the public facing side, but for those who work in the background it is very useful.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1043 "2020-08-15T19:46:27Z")

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Yeah i can see it’s conviniend for YOU being pushed onto toxic posts with your nose down…but that’s not the point…

It is used(abused) to mute and silence unconviniend opinions and THAT is not even close to be ‘right’…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1045 "2020-08-15T19:53:30Z")

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Very funny buldath…

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1046 "2020-08-15T19:54:47Z")

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Do not quote/copy removed/hidden posts. They were removed for a reason.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1047 "2020-08-15T19:55:51Z")

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That was the point…they were NOT removed until i forced you onto them nose down… 🙂

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1048 "2020-08-15T19:56:36Z")

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Those posts were flagged, and hidden by the very system you claim is terrible.

Hidden posts can still be viewed if you look for them. But you have to look for them.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1049 "2020-08-15T19:58:07Z")

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I KNOW this…

This was just payback for removing 51 post and being obviously proud of it…🙂

You forget half of the toxic posts and i just told you that 😛

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**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1050 "2020-08-15T20:15:50Z")

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‘Useful’ and ‘capable of being abused’ are not mutually exclusive states of being.

Some users abusing a feature does not equal all users abusing the feature, or that feature providing zero positive impact when used correctly.

And it does get used correctly at least some of the time - such as to have posts moved to the correct forums, and identify un-arguably rule-breaking content (racist insults, real-life threats, etc).

The fact that you have experience with a bad actor does not mean the tool needs to be removed.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1051 "2020-08-15T20:18:14Z")

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I’m just curious why you guys would leave flagged replies that blatantly break the forum rules?

Like the 2 flagged replies from Vals Loeder to Anderson Geten?

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1052 "2020-08-15T20:33:42Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> things get a bit heated and stuff gets said

The first button is your friend in these cases 😉  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/0/a03ad5df398e703c1b40b03b487314b8c5472c0c.png)  
More than half my posts end up in the trash 🤔

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1053 "2020-08-15T20:35:02Z")

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Posts that are not deleted, instead Flagged and hidden, have the option to be kicked back to the poster so that they can modify it to fit within the rules. In this case, that is what happened.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1054 "2020-08-15T20:41:53Z")

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But there’s an XKCD strip that covers it 😄

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1055 "2020-08-15T20:45:45Z")

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The number of times I think of linking that in those endless back-and-forth arguments…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1056 "2020-08-15T20:46:58Z")

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XKCD and Monty Python, something for every occasion

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1057 "2020-08-15T21:14:42Z")

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> [@ISD\_Buldath](#):
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> Perhaps from the public facing side, but for those who work in the background it is very useful.

How very entitled of you. Take a step back, look at the forum from the outside instead of the inside, and ask yourself this.

Is the forum here for the customers benefit? Or the moderators? This is at least the second time I’ve seen an ISD justify this crap forum existing because it is easier for them.

You know who it’s not easier for? The people that pay for the privilege of using it.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1058 "2020-08-15T21:41:47Z")

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I have no idea what your on about. Do you want a sterile forum?

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1059 "2020-08-15T22:13:03Z")

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In a nutshell.

I want a forum built around the needs of the customer. Not the needs of the mods. Like the previous forum.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1060 "2020-08-15T22:29:50Z")

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So what do you propose instead? And don’t say the old forums, because there’s pretty much no way of going back to those.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1061 "2020-08-15T22:35:30Z")

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For starters.

I am replying to you. But how do you know? I can’t quote you without jumping through hoops. There is nothing to indicate that it’s you I am replying to and not the OP. Especially if I were to post in the near unintelligible English that many here tend towards.

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