# Moderation of the Forums **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1205 "2020-08-29T15:41:10Z")
Alright, so, I took a look at the top 30 ish Posts in the sale topics. Of those, 3 of them (Including yours ) Violated the 24 hour bump rule. The wording of the bump rule will be seen too here as Its being discussed internally. The confusion here is that rule was a copy paste from the old forums, were it was easier to tell the exact time and date when a post was made. With the Discourse system, at a glance you see a post was made in minutes, hours or days ago. This is what is used to gauge whether a Sale post needs to be worked on. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1207 "2020-08-29T15:43:36Z")
If you have nothing nice to say, at least contribute to the topic. If not, say nothing. ---
**Author:** ![J\_Poll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j_poll/32/228940_2.png) [@J\_Poll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/J_Poll)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1209 "2020-08-29T16:54:46Z")
> [@Zheckarr\_Zateki](#): > > That’s a lie. The rules for sales ads listed separately on the new forum. It’s a sticky post. > > > [@](#): > > > > The place to sell your ships, modules, finished goods and raw materials in EVE. This forum section is for in game transactions using in game items only. In addition to the regular forum rules, there are rules specific to this forum that must be followed when posting sell orders. Only sales of In-Game items for In-Game ISK are permitted in this forum. Threads started in this forum are for items that are For Sale, for in-game ISK only. Characters are explicitly excluded. If you wish to … > > You closed my post in violation of the rules just to spite me. If you enforce this ridiculous “every 24h” rule, enforce it for everyone. No one reported my post, you singled me out. From the glorious link you posted yourself 1. Bumping is allowed only by the character who started the thread once per 24 hours. Friendly or multiple bumps per day are not permitted So, you are wrong, ISD is right. Stop whining ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1210 "2020-08-29T17:49:03Z")
For transparency, we made a very recent change after discussing it internally to properly reflect how the Sale threads are moderated in regards to Bumping. The changes are as follows: 1. Bumping is allowed only by the character who started the thread once per calendar day. Has been changed too: 1. Bumping is allowed only by the character who started the thread once per 24 hour period. Internally this has been the moderation Policy of the Sale threads for several years, but the rules had not been updated. This has been fixed. We further note that many of the rules need to be looked at for future changes as they do not reflect how the community use the forums. More information to come in the future. ~Buldath ---
**Author:** ![Zheckarr\_Zateki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zheckarr_zateki/32/415101_2.png) [@Zheckarr\_Zateki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zheckarr_Zateki)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1211 "2020-08-29T22:06:18Z")
Is your brain too small to realize they edited the post and LITERALLY SAID THEY DID after my complaint? You’re wrong, don’t insert your opinion when no one asked you. ---
**Author:** ![Zheckarr\_Zateki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zheckarr_zateki/32/415101_2.png) [@Zheckarr\_Zateki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zheckarr_Zateki)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1212 "2020-08-29T22:09:14Z")
Thanks for making everyone’s lives more difficult with this stupid rule that has NO purpose. We would already flag posts that bumped too often ourselves. You did what no one asked for and what won’t help anyone. Just do your janitor work, kindly. I’ll be flagging every post that violates this new rule so you always have something to waste your life on. Already flagged 4 new threads. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1213 "2020-08-29T22:52:49Z")
Hi! Don’t do that out of spite, only flag when there’s an actual problem. We’d appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1214 "2020-08-30T00:35:22Z")
Another Internet Perry Mason… Hey @Zheckarr_Zateki - before you yell at others “READ THE RUUULES!!!” maybe you should read the rules about abuse of ccp employees/isd. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1215 "2020-08-30T00:55:34Z")
It’s not the first time over the years that the ISD need to be nudged to not fix what isn’t broken. Especially in the Character Bazaar. Zheckarr is right when he says we police ourselves just fine over there. It’s been that way since I started character selling over a decade ago. If something needs looking at, we’ll call you. Stick to where you are actually needed. GD, C&P, and NCQ&A. ---
**Author:** ![Taurine\_Kado](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taurine_kado/32/248643_2.png) [@Taurine\_Kado](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taurine_Kado)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1216 "2020-08-30T01:40:09Z")
And when there are people, who try to “police ourselves” as you say, in the Bazaar, or sales ad, like trying to get people to follow the character bazaar rules by dropping corp or posting with the correct character etc, we get met with backlash to where we have to get the ISD’s involved, and even then, people give them ■■■■ over them enforcing the rules. so you can sit your tail down and hush. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1217 "2020-08-30T02:30:27Z")
> [@Taurine\_Kado](#): > > get the ISD’s involved, and even then, people give them ■■■■ over them enforcing the rules. That’s because the ISD Moderators have a loose interpretation of the Forum Rules and don’t enforce the rules equally among all forum posters. ISD have repeatedly shown themselves to be biased and prejudiced with selective moderation towards certain posters and topics. * * * @Zheckarr_Zateki You should definitely file a complaint with [communityteam@ccpgames.com](mailto:communityteam@ccpgames.com) * * * > [@ISD\_Buldath](#): > > If you have nothing nice to say, at least contribute to the topic. If not, say nothing. Yeah, how about enforcing that with the dozen or so posters in this forum who blatantly disregard forum rules and constantly antagonize others with off topic sarcastic remarks and profanity. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1218 "2020-08-30T03:01:22Z")
I think they keep some of the more colourful language people around to add a bit of spice to the forum. There are days I visit the GD forum and there’s not been much change, those days I don’t even bother to logon. If you removed all those posts and off-topic ones there would be a lot less to read, not that I’m saying they’re worth reading. Certainly some aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1219 "2020-08-30T03:37:41Z")
And that’s the problem, their job as moderators is to enforce the forum rules equally among all posters, not allow some to continue posting, as you put it ‘colorful language’, because it adds a bit of spice to the forum. According to the [Forum Rules](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/forum-moderation-policy-en/): > The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community. > Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. > Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. ---
**Author:** ![Namaros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namaros/32/461419_2.png) [@Namaros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namaros)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1223 "2020-08-30T07:50:25Z")
You and me both. Too many toxic trolls here. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1224 "2020-08-30T07:57:16Z")
Flag their posts and since ISD won’t do anything about it, submit a complaint to [communityteam@ccpgames.com](mailto:communityteam@ccpgames.com) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1225 "2020-08-30T09:04:17Z")
I agree. People like me need to be banned for having a different opinion, a hilarious sense of humour and being a snappy dresser. In all cereal though, Mikey has a point. I cant remember the last time I was banned for my unacceptable opinions, something fishy is going on in here, and we need a hero to sort it out. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1226 "2020-08-30T09:37:55Z")
That wasn’t what I was referring to and you know it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1227 "2020-08-30T09:41:09Z")
I didnt think you were one of the pendantic crew, but you (like most of us) have a tendancy to grapple when an opinion expressed does not match your own. Its an EvE Forum tradition, as is expecting flak in return. But like I say, I agree with you, at least if you are comparing how moderation works elsewhere. I got banned from ED forums for ages for things that here get likes. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1231 "2020-08-30T12:06:00Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > the Forum Rules and don’t **enforce the rules equally among all forum posters**. ISD have repeatedly shown themselves to be **biased and prejudiced** with selective moderation **towards certain posters** Yes, they’re surprisingly lenient towards people like DMC, Foggy and Balos. In this very thread, DMC jumps into an argument I had with another person. Throws attacks, accusations and lies, then whines that it’s somehow me that have started the interaction and calls for bans. The ■■■■■■■ hypocrisy. I agree that everyone should be treated equally. These forum “nice guys” are never courteous when disagreeing with others, nor do they ever provide a warm and friendly atmosphere in here. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1236 "2020-08-30T13:02:44Z")
On another note. Can we add an optional text field to all the flag options? It gives the ability to specify why one actually flags something. Using the “Something else” just to explain my reasoning for an off-topic flag, seems slightly overkill. Just using the other flags seems to confuse the mods, since they seem to think the flags are just out of spite and not for something relevant. Also, can the automated response for the “Something else” flag be disabled? Maybe use the message system only when you need to clarify something regarding the flag (example, the mod is unsure what was meant by the text message). I don’t however think we need this copy paste message. > Thanks for letting us know. We agree there is an issue and we’re looking into it. Not sure how the mod tools work or if it’s possible though. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=46) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=48)