# Moderation of the Forums

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/113 "2020-05-28T02:17:12Z")

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> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#):
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> Given the constructive conversation that arose from this thread and the ISD Appreciation thread (from which ISD received newfound powers), I think CCP should tweak the forum rule a bit: instead of “no discussion of moderation” 🔴, it should be ➡ “no discussion of moderation _ **of specific individuals** _ ”

That was very much my intention. Verbally eating people up is a dead end street. Constructive discussion is productive and good, for us as players and for the forum too.

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**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/114 "2020-05-28T02:21:32Z")

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Is there any chance you could PM me please @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode? No pressure or rush however, whenever it’s good for you.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/115 "2020-05-28T02:25:00Z")

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If you get a private message, it shows up in a green circle, next to where you usually get a notification.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/116 "2020-05-28T02:27:40Z")

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@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode speaking of private messages… what’s the deal with these apparantly non-functional “email addresses” that appear when we expand our of profiles? The ones in the form of [1234567@forumsmail.eveonline.com](mailto:1234567@forumsmail.eveonline.com) ? I tried emailing mine once just to see what it did and it bounced. I just opened up someone else’s profile and expanded their headers and didn’t see theirs, so I’m assuming it is supposed to be private???

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/117 "2020-05-28T02:28:39Z")

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If I had to wager a guess, I’d say it’s for the internal server, and you shouldn’t worry about it too much.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/120 "2020-05-28T03:19:51Z")

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Removed an off topic post. First warning.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/122 "2020-05-28T19:14:11Z")

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Closing is always better than clearing from my experience. Its more effective, and usually when it escalates/comes to such a point that ISD intervention is needed, the thread can be closed anyway as nothing new or interesting will be posted, only bickering being prolonged.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/123 "2020-05-29T03:25:45Z")

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That’s the whole idea of why the bickering is started in the first place, to get the thread closed because they know CCP and ISD/CCL won’t enforce the forum rules.

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**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/124 "2020-05-29T08:20:21Z")

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I hope it doesn’t descend into bickering. I posted initially because I _genuinely_ wanted to discuss the issues at hand, not to malign individuals, whether these people are moderators _or_ rank and file pilots.

I love this game, but sometimes the levels of idiocy, not mention prejudice and hatred for others, are simply breathtaking, especially as they come from people who are supposed to be (_mostly_) adults.

I told two aphorisms as a child.

> You have two eyes, two ears and one mouth. You should use these in proportion.
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> If you don’t have something nice and positive to say you should hold back.

The first of these is a pretty good plan of action generally, and the second is always worth being mindful of even if sometimes it’s hard to achieve (_and I apply this statement to myself as much as anyone else_).

If we all lived by these two aphorism, maybe the world, and also this forum, might be a better place to be present in.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/125 "2020-05-29T08:24:29Z")

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> [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#):
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> If you don’t have something nice and positive to say you should hold back.

While this is a nice sentiment, it’s very easily lost or trodden upon by those of lesser intent. It runs parallel to the “_turn the other cheek_” concept and while also quint, I much rather make anyone regret lashing out in the first place…

To each their own…

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/126 "2020-05-29T10:02:28Z")

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But on the other hand:

“Truth hurts.”

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/127 "2020-05-29T15:25:34Z")

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> [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#):
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> If you don’t have something nice and positive to say you should hold back.

Disagree. Constructive discussion is far more interesting than the inanity of a “positive thoughts only” echo chamber, and that requires being able to post criticism and disagreement.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/simple_pete/32/285038_2.png) [@Simple\_Pete](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Simple_Pete)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/128 "2020-05-29T20:07:27Z")

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I think this might be my first post after 16 years in game. Criticism in these forums might as well be from a pull down select menu. Tired, not helpful and often intended to be insulting.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/129 "2020-05-29T21:17:41Z")

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This probably has something to do with the fact that ideas posted on this forum are often from a pull down menu of terrible ideas that have already been rejected countless times in the past. The last thing we need is a “positive only” echo chamber where nobody is permitted to criticize them.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/simple_pete/32/285038_2.png) [@Simple\_Pete](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Simple_Pete)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/130 "2020-05-29T21:52:15Z")

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The problem is that there are new players coming into the game all the time. To expect them to read every previous post ever made and understand the perspective in which they were made is not reasonable. Why is positive constructive criticism or some hand-holding so difficult? Why would it annoy your or anyone else when one can simply ignore the post?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/131 "2020-05-29T21:54:13Z")

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because bitter vets have to speak up when they see something they’ve had to continually read from new players for the past 17 years.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/132 "2020-05-29T22:32:37Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> from new players for the past 17 years.

…and ignored for the most part by CCP for 17 years…thankfully…

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/133 "2020-05-29T22:33:08Z")

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> [@Simple\_Pete](#):
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> I think this might be my first post after 16 years in game

And _that_ is what you post? 🙄 😉

Can I have your stuff?

Sorry, but there was no “Yes, you gave no indication you were leaving the game, however of course that phrase can be more than a request for a player’s soon-to-be unneeded game items. It can also serve as a subtle comment on the poster’s possible attitude towards the game or even gaming in general amongst other nuanced meanings. …also - it’s worth a shot…” choice on the dropdown menu 🙂

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/simple_pete/32/285038_2.png) [@Simple\_Pete](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Simple_Pete)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/134 "2020-05-29T22:44:05Z")

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🤞 Not leaving the game and no you can’t have my stuff. I have seen both good and bad suggestions over the years. More than a few bad ones from vets made it into the game and a few bad ones from CCP made it into the game. But instead of calling someone an idiot, or worse, I just say to myself that will not work and stop reading. In my opinion, the personal insults are irritating, not constructive to retaining players and not healthy for a game forum.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/135 "2020-05-29T22:44:53Z")

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that was not your first post btw… you posted back in feb 😛

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