# Moderation of the Forums **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 27, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360 "2020-05-27T06:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1605 "2020-09-07T14:28:12Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > The flag limit has been on this forum the whole time You are probably right, but I am not entirely certain. Aurora confirmed that they lowered the threshold for likes (I don’t actually know if there even was a like limit before - I’ve gone on liking sprees and never hit it), so either the flag limit wasn’t there before, or the threshold has been lowered to stupid low levels. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > I remember hitting the limit when I was flagging the spam. This was before the recent changes? Interesting. Well, that corroborates Nevyn’s statements. But I think it is ambiguous that the threshold has been lowered… for no good reason (ISD has repeatedly stated over and over and over again that flag spam has not been a concern), just like all these other changes. ---
**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1606 "2020-09-07T20:54:53Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > The people that WANT to be ISD are the people that shouldn’t be allowed in… I do understand the logic of this statement and it’s not without some degree of merit. The problem is, however (_and this is based on 30+ years of experience in managing volunteers in charities, living on a housing co-operative and a bunch of other relevant experience_) that a lot of the time the people who might be perfect candidates for ISD simply don’t step up to the plate. So what do you do? If people do decide to volunteer, for the best possible reasons, and they’re not perfect then you try to accommodate them while offering peer support and training that hopefully drives and motivates them in the right direction. And you know what? Sometimes those people turn into **great** volunteers. > [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > … If CCP is going to insist on using volunteers instead of hiring people that have experience and no bias … When I last checked, simply having a robust and thorough recruitment process and paying a salary is no guarantee of a lack of bias, if this was true then every company, government institution, etc in the country would be 100% tolerant and inclusive. > [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > … it should be by invitation. Not application. I think this is a pretty good idea on paper. Having said this, there is good scientific evidence out there that people tend to pick people ‘like themselves’ given an opportunity to recruit their own volunteers. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1607 "2020-09-07T21:19:33Z")
hmm…ya know…actually I bet you would do an ok job as isd… Yeah, you would need to lose a bit of bitter…but just being self-aware of that is a positive. I think you would become less captain bligh and more fair than you think when you actually did it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1608 "2020-09-07T21:21:36Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Guess Im a lover not a fighter after all. Now that they added a limit to the likes, you have to compensate with the flags. That’s normal. Just don’t compensate with alcohol. > [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#): > > Guys, guys… just… don’t let the toxicity grind you down, eh? Gotta stand strong! Toxicity of bitter vets is when they think too highly of themselve. Force yourself to make absurd posts to ensure you won’t become one ! ARACHNY !! (that’s when spider don’t have hierarchy ! arachnide+anarchy, just in case someone does not get the joke) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1609 "2020-09-07T22:04:54Z")
> [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#): > > The problem is, however ( _and this is based on 30+ years of experience in managing volunteers in charities, living on a housing co-operative and a bunch of other relevant experience_ ) that a lot of the time the people who might be perfect candidates for ISD simply don’t step up to the plate. Because people who are already donating a bit of their time aren’t necessarily inclined to donate their entire lives toward an effort. I’ve seen organizers try to pull ■■■■ like that, where a person shows up and does a good job for a few hours once a week or a month or whatever, and the management decides that they’re a prime candidate for working a full-time job for free. _Pay them_. Especially in this case. CCP isn’t a charity. They shouldn’t _have_ volunteers. > [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > hmm…ya know…actually I bet you would do an ok job as isd… > > Yeah, you would need to lose a bit of bitter…but just being self-aware of that is a positive. > > I think you would become less captain bligh and more fair than you think when you actually did it. I’ve seen this happen before, and can tell you that a person can be so far gone that their bias never goes away. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1610 "2020-09-08T01:01:36Z")
And what is with… “You can now recategorize and rename topics” as a “Veteran”? I for one do not want to alter ANY post or block anyone. “I” in peculiar should not be given that power. Snowflakes be forewarned! 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1611 "2020-09-08T01:32:03Z")
CCP Aurora has disabled the wiki and rename and recategorization powers that are normally associated by default with the Veteran badge (which by default is called “Regular”, but that was also renamed). We begged her to disable these features after she enabled them and we demonstrated proof-of-concepts of their destructive power in a sandbox thread (though some users wrecked havoc on other threads before the features were disabled). The entire discussion of unannounced forum changes (new-but-now-revoked powers, like/flag limits, trust level requirement changes, etc), including CCP Aurora’s explanation of the changes, is here: > [@Please Wait 9 Hours to Give More Likes psyccp](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-wait-9-hours-to-give-more-likes/264270/): > > [max lijes] frowning_face Oh, and `@discobot` is now a sentient entity. I mean, it’s possible he was before, but let’s just say it has been highly publicized now… ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1612 "2020-09-08T02:04:15Z")
Also, I just edited a post in a locked thd. Did @Archer_en_Tilavine get that bump? ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1613 "2020-09-08T02:19:05Z")
Yes I got your retroactive ping - good to know that retroactive pings and edits on locked threads are forum features. I assume these are Veteran-only features (I guess they let anyone in these days). To respond to your ping: I only add good ideas to my platform 😉 . Do you think so little of me that I would even consider such a thing 💔 ? I consider this to be a personal attack and it should be moderated as such 😒 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1614 "2020-09-08T02:23:16Z")
All I wanted to do is bring up that after a thd is locked, I should not be able to alter my posts in any way, matter or form after a thd is locked. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1615 "2020-09-08T02:27:49Z")
Discuss “new powers” and all other “WTF are you doing to the forum with these unannounced and unnecessary changes” concerns in the thread I linked previously. We already convinced Aurora to disable several new powers. Personally I’m okay with this one and TBH I’ll be using it first thing tomorrow morning when I get out of bed. Shoot, I even had to let Barstorlode know that, and I kid you not, discobot was trolling on the thread… the damn forum bot needs to be moderated. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1616 "2020-09-08T02:35:22Z")
But did the bump from the locked thd go through? I pointed it out you and @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode in the edit? ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1617 "2020-09-08T02:36:11Z")
I got the notification if that’s what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1618 "2020-09-08T02:38:23Z")
Cool, but that’s not right to me. None of us should be able to change what we said after a thd is locked. Edit; or edit… Edit 2; We seem to have a whole new batch of emoji’s now! 🍻 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1619 "2020-09-08T02:53:40Z")
If it’s your own post you’ve always been able to edit it afaik, regardless of whether or not the thread is locked. I’ve certainly been able to do so for a long time. The ISD team can lock a post so that it is uneditable by anyone other than another member of the community team. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1620 "2020-09-08T03:03:42Z")
It doesn’t bother either way, It’s just something I wanted to point out. I’m all for freedom in the forums, it just seemed like a possible abuse. I could send Archer a coded message in an edit! 🤣 Talk about reaching for straws! ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1623 "2020-09-08T09:18:26Z")
Hey, someone removed the :psyccp: emoji from thread title! The biggest contribution to this thread so far! ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1687 "2020-09-09T00:19:07Z")
60 posts have been removed for the below stated reasons. We are tired of the constant derailment and this bickering back and forth. We have given plenty of general and private warnings to numerous users. We have been very lenient. EVE has always been, and always will be a game of confrontation. It is expected for you to find many others within the game that you disagree with. That is the entire point of the game. Find someone who doesn’t agree with you, and fight them. Fight for victory. Winner takes all. Do not, EVER, believe that we will ever take that from the forums. What we will NOT tolerate are people who nickle and dime others repeatedly over and over for the same issues in different threads. Keep threads on topic. ALL of them. Allow this to be a message to all of you. If someone wont leave a certain topic alone and is following you around, ignore them. Flag them if you feel it is appropriate. But do not respond to them. That is the only way we will be able to get control of this obnoxious childish behavior. I am very tired from having to deal with all of this. I don’t want to be tired. **1. Specifically restricted conduct.** > The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. > > In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: > > Trolling > Flaming > Ranting > Personal Attacks > Harassment > Doxxing > Racism & Discrimination > Hate Speech > Sexism > Spamming > Bumping > Off-Topic Posting > Pyramid Quoting > Rumor Mongering > New Player Bashing > Impersonation > Advertising ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1688 "2020-09-09T00:49:06Z")
You’re a better man than I. If I was in your position I’d have nuked it from orbit long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Greckson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bo_greckson/32/227410_2.png) [@Bo\_Greckson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bo_Greckson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360/1689 "2020-09-09T01:10:26Z")
> [@ISD\_Buldath](#): > > Do not, EVER, believe that we will ever take that from the forums. What we will NOT tolerate are people who nickle and dime others repeatedly over and over for the same issues in different threads. Keep threads on topic. ALL of them. Now that you’ve done your little “clean up”, how about I link to a hundred posts that prove what you just said is a complete fabrication? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=61) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moderation-of-the-forums/244360.md?page=63)