# MODS PLEASE LOCK - Jim’s ruined another one 👍

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 18, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630 "2026-08-18T16:50:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/280 "2026-09-03T11:12:53Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> As an experiment we could stop talking about suicide ganks for half a year to see if this improves the player retention numbers!

Heh, wishful thinking.

What really needs to stop are all the ghost theorists filling all these players heads full of overblown events and planting that bad reputational seed in the first place.

I wonder how many times certain people…or a certain person has actually talked to these so called players and showed them these chat logs and websites even before they have a chance to get knee deep in what EVE has to offer. All those bogus reviews from people that didnt have a clue themselves. All it takes is one tiny incident to be blown all out of proportion and it becomes a road block to players who may have been otherwise interested.

If you can cut that out, we’ll have players galore.

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**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/281 "2026-09-03T12:14:28Z")

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Is there a channel for _Why have I not been ganked yet?_ 🤔  
Or is it because I simply pay attention to my surroundings?

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/282 "2026-09-03T12:33:37Z")

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Stay on topic and stop asking people to go off topic .

That trick won’t t work

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/284 "2026-09-03T13:12:51Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> A more interesting question could be to wonder which has a bigger effect on new players leaving:
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> - suicide ganks (directly)
> - complaints about suicide ganks which give new players a false impression they’re helpless against those ganks

Indeed…it is called ‘poisoning the well’. And time and again the ‘think of the children !’ crowd are more concerned with posturing and being seen to be correct 100% of the time than they ever are about the actual children.

The ganking ‘threat’ is vastly over-stated. And the whole notion of these supposedly venomous, vile, psychopathic gankers cackling like Macbeth’s witches is pure hyperbole.

Before I joined Safety, I blew up Aiko’s loot hauler. There were no vile words. No rants. No demand to refund it. The whole thing just passed by with barely a word. _That_ is what gankers are really like.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/285 "2026-09-03T15:22:36Z")

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Carebears are cancer. I may not be the voice of reason. But I am The voice of Truth.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/286 "2026-09-03T15:23:57Z")

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I don’t want any miners in my EvE Online.

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**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/287 "2026-09-03T16:11:29Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I don’t want any miners in my EvE Online.

But… but… this I.A slop begs to differ, princess. I know we’re not supposed to like A.I but once in a while it gives good answers. What about the 'conomy?

**Slop:** Miners are essential to EVE Online’s economy because they extract the raw minerals and ores needed to manufacture ships, modules, ammunition, structures, and countless other items. Without miners supplying those basic resources, industrialists wouldn’t have the materials to build things, and the entire player-driven economy would eventually grind to a halt.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/288 "2026-09-03T16:15:11Z")

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I manufacture all my ships from reprocessed ORE strip miners and Aoede mining upgrades.

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**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/289 "2026-09-03T16:18:15Z")

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> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#):
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> I manufacture all my ships from reprocessed ORE strip miners and Aoede mining upgrades

Do you mine your own ore?

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/290 "2026-09-03T16:22:08Z")

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Can one be a salt miner? Miners should celebrate The Code. It is a system to keep ore prices higher and incentivize mining wage increases. Gankers work hard to keep AFK miners/bots from ruining the market. This is why indi guys also support ganking. The trick with EvE is to understand when you should let things work for you instead of against you. Gitgud. #fuPH #fuTTT #fuSrS

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/291 "2026-09-03T19:37:57Z")

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I already have plenty of ships.

There is no longer a need for miners of any kind.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/292 "2026-09-03T20:23:39Z")

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I’ve spent many years buying the ore in various ways. TKP usually the largest orders in our areas on both sides of the coin and the machine operating it if reasonable. I can see which activities generate which types of minerals. Your statement is not too far from reality. Unfortunately. The prices are already a warning. Anyway different subject different threads…

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**Author:** ![Serenne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serenne/32/509941_2.png) [@Serenne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serenne)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/293 "2026-09-03T20:38:04Z")

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It doesn’t matter who you are and what you do unless you are a nullsec blob… Devs don’t care. They never have, never will. Any attempt to interact with them has resulted in insults or crude looks. They are not interested in truly hearing anything else from the residents of highsec. The CSM is a catchy thing to say but it doesn’t function as marketed. Massive fleet fights are so boring that no streamer would ever show the reality of it. Why keep pushing this content?

CCP in the past has literally created new game mechanics to hand everything we had in high over to null. They created blob mechanics like War HQs to speed it up and set in stone the new power dynamics from the top down, no longer for highsec residents to be relevant. We currently live in the aftermath and planned destruction of mega coalitions. The controls used during the collapse were used to take away the very gifts that were given to nullsec and gutted during the collapse which included a player revolt. Taxes from PLEX and LSI mostly being the gift. Industrial advantages also which used to be controlled by highsec residents. Not only did this happen but all the while null and low got new content to push system advantages to more people in citadel systems, also major advantages for low in the form of Fleet War system bonuses. This is also about new recruits. Highsec, your pilots were taken, the roads are built to funnel people directly to null. The ISK is now gone so that it wouldn’t fall into “the wrong hands” during the power vacuum. All by design and intent during it’s happening. It starts from the ground up from things as basic as system cost index and jobs required to run it past economic viability. Corporate business metrics are dead due to downward pressure from pushing PLEX sales. Mike, you talk about an impending collapse? It’s already happened. They burned our small towns and we have nothing but scorched earth.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/294 "2026-09-04T01:43:04Z")

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I think I’ve now been ganked more times on the forums than in-game…

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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/295 "2026-09-04T02:11:58Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> I think I’ve now been ganked more times on the forums than in-game…

Im right there with you. I even invited my gank in a sort of way in this thread and yep, sure enough…it happened.

But you know what?..ill never leave. 🙂

🌹

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**Author:** ![Serenne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serenne/32/509941_2.png) [@Serenne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serenne)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/296 "2026-09-04T02:48:21Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/f/16f37e4f06e0511e51c5eba3d3dd72fae6c2271e.jpeg)  
You all know the OP is going to be upset that his post contains all this… bad propaganda. Flags incoming lol. We are playin the game wrong again. Ohh noooes. not a demerit. Whats next? A Point taken? ohh gad 💩

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/297 "2026-09-04T03:13:16Z")

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> [@Distaine](#):
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> thats the kind of streamer we need. he makes a good point about keeping a small percent of people and expecting most to try it and leave. He is exactly right.

His primary correct point is that EVE is fundamentally a PvP game by nature and by design. All the carebears desperately trying to assert that EVE is not a PvP game or that PvP is only a small part of EVE…are talking nonsense.

I think what happens is that some people who join simply can’t cope with PvP, or are useless at it, but they like to ‘chill out in space’ so they really _don’t wan_t EVE to be the PvP game that it is. They then spend years ranting about evil PvP-ers on the forums…in the desperate hope that EVE will be changed and renamed to Farmville In Space.

Such people would rather _poison the well_ with their negativity than go off and find one of the thousands of games out there that _do_ provide what they want.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/298 "2026-09-04T21:59:03Z")

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Another take is Eve contains PvP but it also contains other things.

Eve is essentially about choice not just one type of play but many

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/299 "2026-09-04T22:12:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> [Highsec gank](https://zkillboard.com/label/ganked/)  
> `ganked`
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> **619,261** killmails
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> A killmail classified as a high-security-space gank.
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> [PvP](https://zkillboard.com/label/pvp/)  
> `pvp`
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> **82,036,966** killmails
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> Player-versus-player combat that is not classified as padding.

Yeah, ganking seems to be a _real huge_ problem of the game.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/300 "2026-09-04T22:21:04Z")

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I’d say the act itself probably isn’t the aftermath with the channel abuse and dodgy website now that’s a step too far.

You can beat a person on COD for example you don’t have to go t-bag them and insult their disability, while suggesting they play the game your way or leave . That in itself it taking away their choice.

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