# MODS PLEASE LOCK - Jim’s ruined another one 👍

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 18, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630 "2026-08-18T16:50:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/488 "2026-09-06T13:26:15Z")

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It’s honestly not been updated for a while just added to.

Regardless it needs clarification from a Developer. Once that’s done there no more of all this .

> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> It is so a better approach for him would be is to attempt convincing FC to remove or severely limit it.

I believe they already have in part with the creation of Exordium. However those who are coding savvy will Know there’s a big difference in the person power and time to created new space and altering the coding of existing space that has been there for some time .

For all we know Suicide Ganking could well be a case of CCP looking at an unintentional feature and just sayin “meh that’s to much effort to fix let’s just stay quiet on the subject” .

We won’t know until they choose to say so . All we can do is speculate .

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/489 "2026-09-06T13:27:34Z")

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Here, if you hover your system name you see this:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/b/ffb9ed648e384dfbd7dd35762c852782d6b68eae.jpeg)

It also clearly has recently been updated, because before the addition of Exordium this explanation would have been wrong:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/8/4/784fca2ea881118595f0be7094ad610cf316c492.png)

In other words, this thing is as recent as Exordium and one of the most up-to-date parts of the game.

Please come up with a new excuse.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/490 "2026-09-06T13:29:57Z")

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I get what you are trying to say but that doesn’t clarify if it’s intended.

5-10 seconds in the fanfest keynote or a round table etc is literally all it would take .

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/491 "2026-09-06T13:30:43Z")

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“NANANANA if the president doesn’t literally say the Earth is round then I have no reason not to believe the Earth isn’t flat”

Why do you need an authority figure to literally say what’s obvious to everyone else before you too believe the evidence in front of you?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/492 "2026-09-06T13:32:57Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Earth is round then I have no reason not to believe the Earth isn’t flat

And even if did then: “`But he can be wrong too, maybe listening to bad advisors or soemthing, didn't even see Earth from space anyway, I don't believe a single word of it!`” 🤔

:ccpguard:

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/493 "2026-09-06T13:33:58Z")

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If the President I think you are referring to says it then it’s likely the other way round 😂

You are saying this at the moment though and I’m saying it’s the other way. Neither of us are CCP devs so it’s just our opinions.

When they get up and say it however a qualified opinion. We shall have to wait and see if f they clarify it in that way 🙂

If you want a medical opinion you go to a doctor of medicine.

If you want your car fault diagnosing you go to a mechanic.

If you want clarification of a computer game mechanics you go to a Dev , not the forum board of said game .

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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/494 "2026-09-06T13:35:21Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> external blogs and in game channels.

This tirade is becoming ever more comical. Its the same statement that closes every post.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/495 "2026-09-06T13:36:12Z")

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> **[CONCORD](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208902-CONCORD)**
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> CONCORD is one of several policing forces in High Security Space (0.5 to 1.0 security status), tasked with eliminating the ships of players that have illegally attacked other players. Such as att...

> While CONCORD forces do react quickly and with force, they do not have a mandate to protect attacked players and as such `will not necessarily be able to prevent eventual losses if attackers can field sufficient firepower to destroy their targets before CONCORD can intervene`. CONCORD should therefore be regarded as a force of retribution, not one of protection.

🤔

Edit: Note the last update date of that support article: `Updated 2 years ago`

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/496 "2026-09-06T13:36:45Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> You are saying this at the moment though and I’m saying it’s the other way. Neither of us are CCP devs so it’s just our opinions.

One person says the Earth is flat despite evidence pointing to the contrary.  
The other person says the Earth is round, with evidence at their side.

Neither of them are authority figures.

Does this mean both their opinions are equally right?

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/497 "2026-09-06T13:39:17Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> One person says the Earth is flat despite evidence pointing to the contrary.

Or one person is saying it’s easy to fix the coding for an existing part of computer game even though there’s plenty of evidence to point out that it’s not as simple as they think it is. The other is saying it’s not as simple as the other person thinks it is, and is getting called a troll for it 🤷🏻‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/498 "2026-09-06T13:40:54Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> I get what you are trying to say but that doesn’t clarify if it’s intended.

Some random BBQ:

**kage1982:** I think that guy over there is a Reptiloid!  
**Smart Guy:** No man, I am his friend his whole life, he surely isn’t.  
**kage1982:** I am sure, but lets agree to disagree!!!111  
**Biologist:** Look, I have studied all my life. Not a single bit of evidence about Reptiloids has been found.  
**kage1982:** They could all hide from us. We can’t know for sure _until we look under his skin_! Have you cut his skin to see whats underneath???  
**Biologist:** No… I don’t cut peoples skin to find out if they are… Reptiloids…  
**kage1982:** SEE! You can’t be sure! No one can! I don’t believe you until we _know for sure_! Nobody has cut him open yet!  
**Doctor:** Man, I am his doctor, I have given him several injections, he isn’t a Reptiloid!  
**kage1982:** But have you _cut him open_? He could have very thick human looking skin! You can’t know for sure!!111  
**Surgeon:** I actually did cut him open during a surgery. He is a normal being. He isn’t a Reptiloid!  
**kage1982:** But DID YOU CUT HIS BRAIN OPEN??? The Reptiloid coudl be very small and hiding in the skull! You guys all know _nothing_. It’s still 50/50 he is a Reptiloid!  
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That is the level of conversation we are having right now.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/499 "2026-09-06T13:41:15Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Edit: Note the last update date of that support article: `Updated 2 years ago`

Exactly ! Now check the previous versions against the update. How many things in the “update” are actually obsolete game mechanics that they didn’t remove because let’s face it that takes effort and just added the new stuff.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/500 "2026-09-06T13:41:18Z")

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It’s easily doable to turn off the red safety setting, if FCCP wanted.

FCCP did it for Alphas and did it in Exordium.

You already made this false claim before. Next excuse?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/501 "2026-09-06T13:43:06Z")

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Did you ask support if hisec suicide ganking is an intentional part of the game? 🤔

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/502 "2026-09-06T13:44:47Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> It’s easily doable to turn off the red safety setting.

Nothing in coding is “easy” as you think it is. That’s why people in that profession get paid what they do.

Take for example High sec. All the systems that it includes , without adding in the coding required for randomly spawning WH and sites and missions etc can you grasp how hard it would be to change the coding for that after even a year let alone 10 or 20 ?

I’d not blame them for kicking the can down the line on that one tbh it’s a long long job .

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/503 "2026-09-06T13:47:53Z")

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Not long ago they turned off red safety as an option for Alpha characters in hisec, even had to adjust it after at least one method was discovered to still do it (outside hisec then keep it in hisec too I believe but not 100% sure) so they already did it, they could just adjust the existing new code to apply to any character regardless of clone state. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/504 "2026-09-06T13:52:12Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> Nothing in coding is “easy” as you think it is. That’s why people in that profession get paid what they do.

Some things are easier than others.

Turning off red safeties for Alphas only for example is more complex than turning off red safeties for all players.

Given that FCCP is capable of turning off red safeties for Alphas they could also do it for everyone with less or similar effort, if they wanted.

Next excuse?

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/505 "2026-09-06T13:55:03Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Given that FCCP is capable of turning off red safeties for Alphas they could also do it for everyone with less or similar effort.

Something you are better off asking them about. But as “easy” as you think it is or was you are probably wrong as nothing in coding is as easy as people think.

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Next excuse?

Honestly there’s no need for these childish ending quips .

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/506 "2026-09-06T13:57:13Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> Something you are better off asking them about. But as “easy” as you think it is or was you are probably wrong as nothing in coding is as easy as people think.

I have some experience with coding in both my profession and [in my spare time](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-hacking-simulator/513203).

I see zero reason to believe that it is more work to turn off red safeties for all players than it took them to turn off red safeties for the specific subgroup of Alpha players, given that the second thing is the first thing plus an extra step.

> [@kage1982](#):
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> > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> > Next excuse?
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> Honestly there’s no need for these childish ending quips .

I’m ending with that question because you keep coming up with new excuses despite evidence pointing to the contrary.

Next excuse?

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/507 "2026-09-06T14:01:19Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I’m ending with that question because you keep coming up with new excuses despite evidence pointing to the contrary.
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> Next excuse?

You are looking for an emotional response there won’t be one 👍

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I see zero reason to believe that it is more work to turn off red safeties for all players than it took them to turn off red safeties for the specific subgroup of Alpha players.

Because your experience of coding is by your own word “limited” .

Coding data and recoding legacy data are two completely different tasks. It’s like re wiring a house with only the original blueprints and hoping you don’t hit a gas line .

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