# MODS PLEASE LOCK - Jim’s ruined another one 👍

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 18, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630 "2026-08-18T16:50:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/508 "2026-09-06T14:02:13Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> You are looking for an emotional response there won’t be one 👍

I’m not looking for an emotional response.

I’m looking for a rational response for once. Please.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/509 "2026-09-06T14:02:56Z")

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Again:

> [@Is there a link between players (new and old) leaving the game and Suicide gankers in High sec?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-link-between-players-new-and-old-leaving-the-game-and-suicide-gankers-in-high-sec/516630/501):
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> Did you ask support if hisec suicide ganking is an intentional part of the game? thinking

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/510 "2026-09-06T14:05:02Z")

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You have had several but you choose not to accept them. Rather hypocritical of you to ve honest.

The answers you seek can be found with clarification, with the Devs. If you choose not to seek them and just assume you are correct fair play to you . It doesn’t make you right, just presumptuous and frankly lazy

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/511 "2026-09-06T14:07:00Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> Because your experience of coding is by your own word “limited” .
> 
> Coding data and recoding legacy data are two completely different tasks. It’s like re wiring a house with only the original blueprints and hoping you don’t hit a gas line .

I never said I have limited experience coding. I said I have experience coding. I’ve shown evidence of having experience coding.

With basic knowledge of coding it’s not hard to see that “Turn off safeties for all players” and “turn off safeties for a subset of players” are similarly complex, with as only difference that turning it off for the subset of players has an extra filter.

Without that filter it’s just the first thing, which means FCCP is very capable of doing so with similar effort as it took to turn off red safeties for Alphas.

I see no reason to believe otherwise, and you haven’t given any.

> [@kage1982](#):
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> You have had several but you choose not to accept them. Rather hypocritical of you to ve honest.

I’ve been in a discussion with you and have refuted every point you made with new evidence.

Yet you still insist you’re right, despite evidence pointing to the contrary.

At which point are you going to make rational responses and accept that ‘the Earth is not in fact flat’, or in your case, accept that suicide ganking is intentionally part of the game?

> [@kage1982](#):
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> The answers you seek can be found with clarification, with the Devs. If you choose not to seek them and just assume you are correct fair play to you . It doesn’t make you right, just presumptuous and frankly lazy

The devs clarified it: in the game.

Who else do you think wrote all the code supporting suicide ganks in HS and the code describing that suicide ganks are a part of the game in HS space?

Did players write that?

_Did gankers write that?_

No, it’s all work by the devs that you see and write. If only you were to look at the evidence in front of you.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/512 "2026-09-06T14:09:51Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I have some experience with coding in both my profession and [in my spare time](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-hacking-simulator/513203).

This you bro ?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/513 "2026-09-06T14:10:19Z")

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> **[Understatement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understatement)**
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> Understatement is an expression of lesser strength than what the speaker or writer actually means or than what is normally expected. It is the opposite of embellishment or exaggeration, and is used for emphasis, irony, hedging, or humor. A particular form of understatement using negative syntax is called litotes. This is not to be confused with euphemism, where a polite phrase is used in place of a harsher or more offensive expression. Understatement may also be called underexaggeration to denote...

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/514 "2026-09-06T14:10:26Z")

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@Gerard_Amatin Even IF you would find a statement of a dev saying clearly “Ganking is intended gameplay!”, he would still claim that we can’t be sure. Because

- the source is “outdated”
- the dev isn’t a “real dev”
- the dev might be a real dev, but not _the dev that works on highsec gameplay_
- the dev might be the real one dev that works on highsec gameplay but he might not have been around _when the mechanic of ganking came into the game_
- the dev might be around then, but we can’t know it if the dev isn’t _just stating his personal opinion_ and not giving a CEO and council approved CCP/FC message

Aaaand sooo onn.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/515 "2026-09-06T14:12:08Z")

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Exactly, the pattern shows we’ll always see a ‘next excuse’.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/516 "2026-09-06T14:13:06Z")

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Ah, and I even forgot:

- The dev hasn’t said it _here at the topic, so the statement is unrelated !!!11111_. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/517 "2026-09-06T14:13:47Z")

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In that case we can give up.

Devs won’t waste their time on a thread like this.

We’ll never be able to convince kage1982!

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/518 "2026-09-06T14:14:39Z")

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![a soccer field with a stadium in the background that says the day radio stand|833x470.0313479623825](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/2/3/223d5d4965e2274eeebf181cfa6319abde3caeb3.gif)

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/519 "2026-09-06T14:20:28Z")

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Unless the devs invite him to Iceland to corporate HQ and provide a presentation about why suicide ganking is intentional game design he will not believe it… and even then will deny it. 🤔

🤣

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/520 "2026-09-06T14:22:33Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Even IF you would find a statement of a dev saying clearly “Ganking is intended gameplay!”,

Actually I wouldn’t 👍

A blog or a speed a newsletter where CCP (insert name) says “Suicide Ganking is XYZ etc” and that’s all that is required.

So far we have patronising interpretations from you guys and a Screen grab that explains how concord works. (And a few stalkers and trolls thrown in) .

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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/521 "2026-09-06T14:22:59Z")

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There certainly comes a point that you just have to let go. Some folks cant be reasoned with no matter the amount of evidence presented.

It would be best perhaps to just turn this thread into a game and get whatever entertainment can be salvaged from it.

For some reason, the “Gong Show” comes to mind…but im sure somebody could think of something better.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/522 "2026-09-06T14:24:55Z")

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Game: set up a chat bot to argue with him and see how long he will keep responding to the chat bot. 🤔

:ccpguard:

Edit: bonus points if the chat bot has a displayed character name that includes “`parrot`” in it. 😏

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/523 "2026-09-06T14:25:00Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Devs won’t waste their time on a thread like this.

Finally you admit that like me you are nobody 👍

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/524 "2026-09-06T14:25:58Z")

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This is not my dumpster fire of a thread.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/525 "2026-09-06T14:29:36Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> Actually I wouldn’t 👍

i believe you would. But lets agree to disagree and keep it civil! -\_-

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/526 "2026-09-06T14:29:50Z")

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Man lights fire then cries arson .

You are a funny one.

If CCP cared about you they would say you were right. Double edged sword on any forum 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mods-please-lock-jim-s-ruined-another-one/516630/527 "2026-09-06T14:31:57Z")

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I see myself more as the people on the right

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/2/7/d27de3a7743f77e883d9d53b83420c77f74d27a2.jpeg)

… attempting to turn off the fire of lies by bringing reason and evidence.

And for clarity, by ‘fire of lies’ I mean the unsubstantiated claims that suicide ganking is not intentionally part of this game.

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