# Monthly Economic Report - August 2019

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** mer, official, devblog\
**Created:** [September 6, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127 "2019-09-06T14:30:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/21 "2019-09-06T16:16:46Z")

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> [@ilter\_utku](#):
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> Less customers but stronger EVE. 😕

Yes. What’s confusing about it?

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**Author:** ![ilter\_utku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilter_utku/32/182202_2.png) [@ilter\_utku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ilter_utku)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/22 "2019-09-06T16:20:17Z")

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Nothing. We just need to find better ways to lose more customers then.

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**Author:** ![Emrys\_Alf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emrys_alf/32/286878_2.png) [@Emrys\_Alf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emrys_Alf)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/23 "2019-09-06T16:20:20Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> Fine.
> 
> PCU has never really affected me.

fewer people = fewer pretty much everything.  
Less money to CCP to run the game.  
Less money to Dev’s to make the game better.  
Less people making things for sale.  
Less people to kill,  
less people buying things.  
Blackout has helped hide all the systems that are empty.

Less is not good in this case. Quality over quantity works in many places but running an online game is not one of them. Critical mass is important. At some point other people do see the PCU and feel it is too dead. What is that number?

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/24 "2019-09-06T16:21:51Z")

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My update for August (corrections welcome):

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/6/d6a91d91d2a478ad2defb9799cbb0b58fc4dd533.png)

And summary:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/1/f13031649b82f876f3c6b19e48a401ea2a55e0fb.png)

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/25 "2019-09-06T16:21:55Z")

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🤣 That bounties slope.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/26 "2019-09-06T16:22:31Z")

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> [@Emrys\_Alf](#):
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> Less money to CCP to run the game.

That’s a good thing, not a bad thing.

> [@Emrys\_Alf](#):
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> At some point other people do see the PCU and feel it is too dead.

That is a good thing as well.

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**Author:** ![Emrys\_Alf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emrys_alf/32/286878_2.png) [@Emrys\_Alf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emrys_Alf)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/27 "2019-09-06T16:22:35Z")

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> [@Mark\_Marconi](#):
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> You are aware 10,000 accounts were banned this month.

I thought that was since years beginning. But they seem to be back in HS with a vengeance so CCP needs to go clear out HS now.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/28 "2019-09-06T16:25:28Z")

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> [@Emrys\_Alf](#):
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> fewer people = fewer pretty much everything.  
> Less money to CCP to run the game.  
> Less money to Dev’s to make the game better.  
> Less people making things for sale.  
> Less people to kill,  
> less people buying things.  
> Blackout has helped hide all the systems that are empty.
> 
> Less is not good in this case. Quality over quantity works in many places but running an online game is not one of them. Critical mass is important. At some point other people do see the PCU and feel it is too dead. What is that number?

EVE did fine for many years with a PCU around what we see now. In fact, many people will claim that these were the golden years of EVE.

EVE hit a peak around 2010-2013, but then a certain few devs made a certain few changes and things started to decline from there. I will not name names or the changes as we are all well aware and it doesn’t matter.

EVE has been sick for a long time. EVE has had cancer. Cancer cells are garbage and crowd out normal “real” cells. Sometimes the treatment for cancer involves radiation and powerful poisons that not only reduce cancer cells, but also make the patient appear to be even more sick.

We’ve had 30,000 cancer cells directly deleted from the host body of EVE Online, and still the tumors continue to bleed. This is a good thing. We’ll lose some healthy cells in the meantime but the great things about those cells is that they can always come back or regenerate and new cells can be proliferated.

A balanced economy = a strong game.

Balanced structures and ships = a strong game.

Balanced creation and destruction = a strong game.

More risk and less intel = a strong game.

EVE will come out better for this.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/29 "2019-09-06T16:25:35Z")

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Not sure where considering almost every hi-sec region is down.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/30 "2019-09-06T16:26:42Z")

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No no you see the bots went to HiSec where they station spin isntead of mining/ratting. /s

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**Author:** ![ilter\_utku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilter_utku/32/182202_2.png) [@ilter\_utku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ilter_utku)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/31 "2019-09-06T16:26:49Z")

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Have fun in your better EVE then.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/32 "2019-09-06T16:28:05Z")

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I will.

I am looking forward to EVE returning to it’s roots, becoming a more difficult, more dangerous, and darker game.

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/33 "2019-09-06T16:28:08Z")

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Current PCU is at 2007 levels (and going down)

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/34 "2019-09-06T16:28:30Z")

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> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#):
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> Current PCU is at 2007 levels

And people _still_ talk about the events of those years.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/35 "2019-09-06T16:28:53Z")

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And look how high it went before Null sec greed destroyed it all. Polluting the Devs and CSM and threatening to quit at any hint of balance.

Fixing null is very long over due.

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/36 "2019-09-06T16:29:11Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> > Current PCU is at 2007 levels
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> And people _still_ talk about the events of those years.

non sequitur

Or to be less twatish 🙂 2007 events are just history, and irrelevant to health of game

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/37 "2019-09-06T16:29:34Z")

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> [@TeamGreen](#):
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> Lets see how september will turn out at the end

Sept and Oct are the really key indicators, Aug is a holiday month.

The only people who derive anything from summer numbers are Chicken Little and his whacko followers.

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/38 "2019-09-06T16:30:41Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> > Lets see how september will turn out at the end
> 
> Sept and Oct are the really key indicators, Aug is a holiday month.

Then we’ll say, but the cyno changes mean we have to wait until xmas, but thats a holiday, so lets wait until February, but but but… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/39 "2019-09-06T16:31:00Z")

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> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#):
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> non sequitur

Not at all.

You’re saying PCU is down to 2007 levels (and falling). I’m suggesting that this isn’t necessarily a bad thing, and provided supporting evidence for my claim.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/40 "2019-09-06T16:31:34Z")

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> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#):
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> > > Lets see how september will turn out at the end
> > 
> > Sept and Oct are the really key indicators, Aug is a holiday month.
> 
> Then we’ll say, but the cyno changes mean we have to wait until xmas, but thats a holiday, so lets wait until February, but but but… 🙂

Every summer, same thing, the sky is falling, boo hoo hoo….

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