# Monthly Economic Report - August 2019

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** mer, official, devblog\
**Created:** [September 6, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127 "2019-09-06T14:30:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/61 "2019-09-06T23:18:27Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> 3 months, 22k period average.

The way EVE Offline averages the longer periods always makes for a higher average figure, because it drops data points.

That said, I do see one worrying trend in the MER, that Velocity of Isk graph isn’t a good sign.

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**Author:** ![usag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/usag/32/176794_2.png) [@usag](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/usag)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/62 "2019-09-06T23:57:07Z")

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I’m beginning to think you work for CCP. I’m sure you noticed the drop in players this month. oh I forgot your the if its to risky don’t play or move guy. well your getting what you asked for.

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**Author:** ![usag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/usag/32/176794_2.png) [@usag](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/usag)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/63 "2019-09-07T00:00:23Z")

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I can tell you I went from 5 paid accounts to 1. if that helps

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**Author:** ![Chequrself](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chequrself/32/244301_2.png) [@Chequrself](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chequrself)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/64 "2019-09-07T00:25:43Z")

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I reckon he is CCP Hillmar or just a forum warrior that knows nothing about the game.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/65 "2019-09-07T00:27:56Z")

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> [@Mark\_Marconi](#):
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> Star Citizen is finished in 2348

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![usag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/usag/32/176794_2.png) [@usag](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/usag)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/66 "2019-09-07T00:48:41Z")

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the funny thing is Star Citizen will probably still be around long after eve is gone because somebody there knows how to get people to buy ships that cost the same as a car payment or more in some cases. More and more people everyday. I feel like they (CCP) didn’t like the way I play so there showing me the door. when its time to go ill try not to let the door hit me

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/67 "2019-09-07T01:44:38Z")

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Null Sec has been broken for so long and the risk vs reward needs fixing. It is as simple as that.

As to the player drop another 8000 accounts were banned this month and with the release of WoW Classic, which has millions of players you expect a drop.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/68 "2019-09-07T02:50:16Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> Excuse the question but: What kind of fun do you have? You are inactive in EVE when it comes to PVP, your corp is PVP inactive. You keep talking about this fun that it makes someone think you’d be drowining out the stars with the blood of capsuleers. Yet, all you do is hide in a wormhole. What is that fun that you are having?

What are you talking about, and what does any of it have to do with anything?

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/69 "2019-09-07T03:06:56Z")

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It does take a special kind of person to comment negatively about people who live in the most dangerous part of EvE, Wormholes.

Especially when they live in the part of EvE that was safer than Hello Kitty.

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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/70 "2019-09-07T06:32:58Z")

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> [@Mark\_Marconi](#):
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> Fixing null is very long over due.

Fixing null won’t ever happen, there’s too much inertia in the large groups that cannot be overcome without a total reset. Still, it would be fun to see several weeks of 31337 PvP when everyone’s skillsets are relatively equal, starting off with some rookie ship carnage.

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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/71 "2019-09-07T06:49:22Z")

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> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#):
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> Or to be less twatish 🙂 2007 events are just history, and irrelevant to health of game

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

With WoW Classic released, its sad to see the EVE of almost a decade later having the crap beaten out of it in such a short period.

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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/72 "2019-09-07T06:53:13Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> It is supporting evidence. It shows that a low PCU isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There was still plenty of content back in those days.

What rubbish, in 2007 super umbrella’s weren’t getting dropped on everyone and a titan wasn’t considered a standard doctrine.

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**Author:** ![Emrys\_Alf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emrys_alf/32/286878_2.png) [@Emrys\_Alf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emrys_Alf)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/73 "2019-09-07T07:38:03Z")

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> [@Mark\_Marconi](#):
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> It does take a special kind of person to comment negatively about people who live in the most dangerous part of EvE, Wormholes.
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> Especially when they live in the part of EvE that was safer than Hello Kitty.

Would sort of believed that pre black out but now wormholes are one of the safest places in EVE.  
I lived in WH space and really LowSec was scarier in my opinion.

Post Blackout WH space is one of the easiest places to be.  
Can close and lock the doors and keep people out for 4 hours and then reclose.  
No one can cyno a fleet in from a ways a way.  
Limit for how many people/ships can gate in.  
Any take down plan has to be a multi month affair.  
There are lots and lots of empty WH systems to move into and if taken just find another one.

Fewer people playing is not good for the game. Need to get the departed to return and new players to stay. Nothing at present is achieving that. Just making people go to their sides and looking for salty tears. Will rip the game apart.

We all loose.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/74 "2019-09-07T07:47:52Z")

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Considering that WH are still a lot more dangerous than Null, all you have proved is that you should go live in a WH for a year before even thinking about commenting again.

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/75 "2019-09-07T09:53:47Z")

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Funny but i made more isk with far less risk in 2 years in WH than i ever have in nulsec - Though i do admit, living in WH became pretty boring after a while, you can only shoot so many NPC’s manually before it gets really, really old. Which is why i ended up leaving

As long as you do WH things (closing holes etc) before spending 3 or 4 hours shooting NPC’s that literally spew isk into your wallet - It is easy play.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/76 "2019-09-07T10:02:43Z")

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> [@Mark\_Marconi](#):
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> Considering that WH are still a lot more dangerous than Null, all you have proved is that you should go live in a WH for a year before even thinking about commenting again.

Wormholes are more dangerous than null sec in what way? You can literally close off all entries to your ratting system and no one can come in to spoil your party. If you so desire, you can even built capitals in wormholes that no one else can enter with capitals.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/77 "2019-09-07T10:06:53Z")

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I made less. I constantly ran out of anomalies, harder to transport to trade hubs, harder to ship fuel in etc…

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/78 "2019-09-07T10:10:49Z")

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You have never lived in one have you, if you had you would know what you said is not so much false as useless.

Yes you can close the current holes, not knowing now many people you are locking in inside the system with yourself.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/79 "2019-09-07T10:12:21Z")

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What does it matter? You have your PVP fitted fleet with you for the PVE in any case. It’s your home system/system connection after all, where all the people from your group are residing and are ready for PVP.

This also does not make WHs more dangerous than null sec as you do not know how many people are out and about hunting you there either. You did not know that before Blackout and do not now.

Next myth?

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-august-2019/188127/80 "2019-09-07T10:15:10Z")

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I will admit I am not going to bother, you just suggested locking yourself in with unknown number of hostiles but do not seem to understand the fact there is no way out makes it more dangerous. Those invaders can also keep closing the exits so you cannot escape. So you have no backup, no fuel, no nothing.

But you think hello kitty land is more dangerous. Go play in WH for a year and then open your mouth.

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