# Monthly Economic Report - February 2021 **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** mer, official\ **Created:** [March 25, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188 "2021-03-25T15:00:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/21 "2021-03-25T18:31:11Z")
But the timeline is in months ---
**Author:** ![BigUzi\_911](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biguzi_911/32/252387_2.png) [@BigUzi\_911](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BigUzi_911)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/22 "2021-03-25T19:05:09Z")
So the price of minerals is climbing ever higher, while the money supply stagnates or falls. This I feel will lead to an increase in the price of products and ships as people scramble to maintain their profit margins. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/23 "2021-03-25T19:32:50Z")
Total Market Trade Value. Would that be the isk value seating on the markets for the region or the total bought from the regional market? ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/24 "2021-03-25T20:52:05Z")
Xanth, Please edit your post so it’s readable. You’ll need to wait until tomorrow because of Slow Mode, but we can wait until then. I promise to remember that there was a specific post I wanted to check out. –Gadget sees a squirrel ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/25 "2021-03-25T20:54:39Z")
btw, @CCP_Dopamine, maybe the MER should be tagged with, I dunno, ‘MER’? ---
**Author:** ![Hidden\_Markov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hidden_markov/32/260260_2.png) [@Hidden\_Markov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hidden_Markov)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/27 "2021-03-25T22:44:44Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > And now, as the nullsec revenue streams have moved to highsec, and are mostly in NPC corps so they can’t be wardec’d, we’re seeing the money supplies open up again. Which was also entirely predictable (and predicted, by basically everyone who isn’t CCP). Which is odd. Null sec back in the day I was there lots had empire angles for money. Combat main stuck waiting for the titan pilot to finally show up? Alt tab an empire miner or something. The isk must be made, main stuck on a CTA was no excuse for a night off lol. If it provided decent personal income, a more organized setup should make out better. I mean the gerbils in my then mac book pro only had so may clients they could run. COmbat main on an op, miner in hulk and orca with a 3rd char on standby was all she had lol. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/28 "2021-03-25T23:25:35Z")
Yeah, cause theres no loss in WH space if a structure gets blown up, all your stuff goes into asset safety… ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/29 "2021-03-25T23:28:17Z")
Thanks for the extra bits of info. ---
**Author:** ![Zuccini\_Vaselini](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Zuccini\_Vaselini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zuccini_Vaselini)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/30 "2021-03-26T02:50:34Z")
Wormholers are the smallest player base, living in the safest space there is. FIX YOUR GODDAMN RISK / REWARD BALLANCE ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/6/5d610e45937337498db9c944f272e88d97dcce9a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![xErgo\_Proxyx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xergo_proxyx/32/258826_2.png) [@xErgo\_Proxyx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xErgo_Proxyx)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/31 "2021-03-26T04:53:12Z")
You have said THE dumbest thing I’ll see in my lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/32 "2021-03-26T05:54:29Z")
In the future I’d love to see metrics on suicide ganking. Look at the average cost of a gank, the loot the dropped, and the total value of the kill. ---
**Author:** ![Lurswena\_Ice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lurswena_ice/32/305444_2.png) [@Lurswena\_Ice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lurswena_Ice)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/33 "2021-03-26T06:12:16Z")
Risk-Reward for Miners… As we can see in graphics, the worst mining was where? Oh right! in NULL! So what happened with risk vs reward? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/34 "2021-03-26T06:13:41Z")
Remind me what is risky about Nullsec and why they should benefit from more profitable mining than other areas? ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/35 "2021-03-26T06:22:19Z")
Learn some perspective. If you can recover a huge loss within hours instead of days or weeks, the risk of loss and loss is meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![Lurswena\_Ice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lurswena_ice/32/305444_2.png) [@Lurswena\_Ice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lurswena_Ice)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/36 "2021-03-26T06:27:23Z")
Hm, lets see, o, we can start with npc rats - in null they are vay more dangerous. in Null you can’t mine AFK not like in hisek. In Null there is no Concorde who, if not save your miner, then at least kill CODE guys. In Null you can be droped by a fleets, ganks from WH, and just simple classic ganks. And few more ways to get killed because mining ships are quiet slow with warp offs. In null whole fleet can be trapped in bubble and get killed because, well you can’t warp off 😃 Also mined material haulin all the way from null out to hi-sek, could be dangerous right? Did I forgot something? Ou yeah, totally f\*\*\* up asteroid belts, where you simple can’t proberly mine classic Ore. So why WHY hisek profits now are better then null? Now, if still have no clue why null should be more rewarded, go try mine in null sek lets say a week 🙂 and compare later with hi-sek mining. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/37 "2021-03-26T06:44:11Z")
> [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > in Null you can’t mine AFK not like in hisek. Yes you can > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > In Null there is no Concorde who, if not save your miner, then at least kill CODE guys. Concord only serves to punish criminal activity, not protect. > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > In Null you can be droped by a fleets, ganks from WH, and just simple classic ganks. You can use these mechanics to kill miners in highsec as well. > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > And few more ways to get killed because mining ships are quiet slow with warp offs. Are mining ships faster in Highsec? > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > In null whole fleet can be trapped in bubble and get killed because, well you can’t warp off 😃 This is a valid point! I have to ask though we’re you AFK mining and didn’t see local spike with neutrals? Also consider that miners can be bumped in Highsec and held down until the gankers arrive. Works like a bubble, no? 😉 > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > Also mined material haulin all the way from null out to hi-sek, could be dangerous right? Nullsec miners aren’t hauling minerals to Highsec. It’s the other way around. I’d dare say most competent groups have their own industrial infrastructure setup to produce the things they need locally - in Nullsec. Those minerals you mine stay there bud. > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > Ou yeah, totally f\*\*\* up asteroid belts, where you simple can’t proberly mine classic Ore. There are certain minerals you aren’t able to get in Highsec as well. > [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > Now, if still have no clue why null should be more rewarded, go try mine in null sek lets say a week 🙂 and compare later with hi-sek mining. I’ll pass, thanks. Lastly take into consideration that Highsec in general is a much more “violent” place when looking at destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/38 "2021-03-26T06:57:57Z")
> [@Lurswena\_Ice](#): > > Now, if still have no clue why null should be more rewarded, go try mine in null sek lets say a week 🙂 and compare later with hi-sek mining. High sec mining is still no where near the levels of null sec mining. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/39 "2021-03-26T07:04:13Z")
Also you can just as easily use bubbles to protect your mining fleet. You can use anchorable bubbles about 70km from the belt. Anchor them in such a way where neutrals warping from Stargates will get stuck in the bubble. Can toss a can into space where they’ll land for added spice to decloak scouts. So you talk about how risky Nullsec is but it sounds like you’re not using your noggin - both here on the forums AND while mining in Nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/40 "2021-03-26T07:38:07Z")
Less risk… they live completely fine without local, take local away from null sec and 2/3rd’s stop logging in… yea your statement is not correct. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188/41 "2021-03-26T08:01:31Z")
You are uninformed in that regard. In W-space, you have 100% control over who can come into your ratting system and you can close off all entries completely. You cannot do that in null sec. You only need one system for ratting to rake in copious amounts of ISK, too. You can’t do that in null sec. You can recover the cost for a lost dread within an hour or two in wormholes where dread ratting is feasible, and the cost for shiny BS in other wormholes. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-february-2021/302188.md?page=3)