# Monthly Economic Report - July 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** mer, official, devblog\ **Created:** [August 9, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596 "2018-08-09T11:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/21 "2018-08-11T01:36:50Z")
What is happening on Everyshore? šŸ˜± ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/22 "2018-08-11T06:50:42Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > Iā€™m not sure, but Iā€™d assume that Goons are totally okay with arming their enemies, because itā€™s good for the economy. It is a logical fallacy to assume Goons want to improve the economy. Goons want to improve Goons, if that happens to be good for the economy, then so be it. If it isnā€™t then they so be it. > [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > Whatever is good for the consumption of goods in EVE, is good for Goons. Wut? Why should Goons care if some schlub is Inghenges is buying a vexor? > [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > My point was, that the MER shows a _significantly_ lower Mining amount and NPC bounties for July. Whatever they did, they lost around 15 Trillion simply by not bearing enough. And no, they didnā€™t destroy stuff worth 15 Tril in July. You assume that what Goons are doing is of less value than bearing it up in Delve. If this were the case, that the opportunity cost of not bearing it up in Delve was larger than what they are doing then theyā€™d back up and go home. However, it is most likely the case that the previous months of ā€œbearing it upā€ were don precisely for what Goons are doing now. ---
**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/23 "2018-08-12T14:18:49Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > However, it is most likely the case that the previous months of ā€œbearing it upā€ were don precisely for what Goons are doing now. Yeah. Pretty much that. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/24 "2018-08-12T16:02:43Z")
This summer MS diagram ![3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/ad842715ba884780120aabd9387f079c054503b1.png) is exactly to a diagram I presented like 3 months ago ![s-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/c/bc97fd87499620e0aeb4633f23b58788a6c65402.jpg) in the topic > [@ISK Influx Anomaly](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isk-influx-anomaly/84525): > > What is the origin of this ISK source during the Apr and May 2018? Explain me. Based on other diagrams, all in game faucets are the same as previous 10 months. Its player origin, because Corporation wallet have smooth monotonous line. Just donā€™t tell me that somebody sold the Blue Loot for 100T ISK! **_Give me a MER Oracle Badge on this forum!_** ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/25 "2018-08-12T16:26:54Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Give me a MER Oracle Badge on this forum! Aura voice: ~~Docking~~ request denied. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/26 "2018-08-13T12:06:03Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > It is a logical fallacy to assume Goons want to improve the economy. Goons want to improve Goons, if that happens to be good for the economy, then so be it. If it isnā€™t then they so be it. But what does it mean to improve Goons? Iā€™d have assumed that the massive accumulation of wealth is not an accident or side-effect, but core part of the strategy. To protect specifically from the possible negative effects that over-accumulation and maybe over-production could have, it should be a good thing to arm ones enemies so there is new need for more minerals. > [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > You assume that what Goons are doing is of less value than bearing it up in Delve. If this were the case, that the opportunity cost of not bearing it up in Delve was larger than what they are doing then theyā€™d back up and go home I didnā€™t assume, Iā€™m pointing out the effect. Now I will assume: I guess that halfing down ISK and mineral income, while still being on top of everybody else is an acceptable price to pay when you feel confident that you can outlast the others in terms of ressources and if the war is making members happy while having other positive effects for the group. > [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > However, it is most likely the case that the previous months of ā€œbearing it upā€ were don precisely for what Goons are doing now. Yeah sure. The big revenge and all of that. NCPL have made enough enemies over the years for stomping on people with their super fleets. Goons and allies have picked up many of those guys and I assume there was and is high motivation to do everything necessary to get a proper payback. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/27 "2018-08-13T19:22:32Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > But what does it mean to improve Goons? The answer to that is probably not a fixed answer. Right now Goons are at war and are on the offensive. So it is probably different than it was a couple months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/28 "2018-08-14T15:13:48Z")
As a Gallente toon who mostly hung out in Everyshore/Sinq Laison my first 2 years in game before primarily moving to Amarr (Domain/Tash-Murkon mostly) and living there most of the time since aside from some incursion wanderings and some WH living nowā€¦ I always thought Everyshore was a place with tons of mining and some industry, and ofc Sinq Laison as being the trade hub. Iā€™m not sure whether more industry is performed in one or the other, but as Sinq Laison is generally busier and ā€œbiggerā€, Iā€™d have guessed there. But maybe Everyshore is in fact the industrial heart of Gallente space, and thus the imports being high is because people are bringing in ore/compressed ore from all over and minerals sourced from Dodixie in Sinq Laison (or other trade hubs) to Everyshore to manufacture things. Mebbe? ---
**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/29 "2018-08-15T00:02:58Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > is exactly to a diagram I presented like 3 months ago Donā€™t dig for skeletons. Make that a policy. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/30 "2018-08-15T07:07:13Z")
No someone moved alot of high value assets into the region .Iā€™M guessing either supers or someoneā€™s entire Alliance Tourney ship stash ---
**Author:** ![Boldly\_Gone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boldly_gone/32/274259_2.png) [@Boldly\_Gone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boldly_Gone)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/31 "2018-08-15T15:16:54Z")
Itā€™s highsec, so no supers. Some new Citadels perhaps? In April, May and June Everyshore was exporting, in June 0,9 T ISK. ![stats](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/2/a29b5e9be739078cd715fe31f82c7edddfccdd72.png) ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/32 "2018-08-15T17:34:43Z")
> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#): > > But maybe Everyshore is in fact the industrial heart of Gallente space, and thus the imports being high is because people are bringing in ore/compressed ore from all over and minerals sourced from Dodixie in Sinq Laison (or other trade hubs) to Everyshore to manufacture things. Imports are pretty much non-existent. And if you look at the net exports they are pretty close to the value of ecports. And production is miniscule. Looks like what is happening is people mine in Everyshore, people buy said minerals, and then move them out. ---
**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/33 "2018-08-16T05:31:40Z")
Itā€™s not what I would call a report. Itā€™s just a data dump with no analysis. Iā€™d get sacked if I presented a ā€˜reportā€™ like that. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/34 "2018-08-16T06:07:26Z")
You should work for CCP instead. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/35 "2018-08-16T06:14:17Z")
The pay cut would kill me. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/36 "2018-08-17T12:02:22Z")
Please add all CONCORD killmails into the killmail dump. That way itā€™d be possible to seperate war/suspect kills from suicide ganks. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/37 "2018-08-17T12:47:24Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > Imports are pretty much non-existent. And if you look at the net exports they are pretty close to the value of ecports. And production is miniscule. Looks like what is happening is people mine in Everyshore, people buy said minerals, and then move them out. Like I said, that last bit you just said is what I always assumed Everyshoreā€™s role in the wider economy was, but these recent numbers certainly indicate something else is going on, even if only temporarily. Maybe the dude (half?) joking about the Palatine was on to something. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/38 "2018-08-17T13:00:15Z")
> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#): > > Maybe the dude (half?) joking about the Palatine was on to something. It was me and it was primarily a joke including both possibilities as it is unlikely someone would do that BUT there is always the theoretical possibility in which case it is even more funny if that is the case. The reason for this duality and the joke about the possibility is because some people done the calculations (one or several not sure but I see people mentioning those numbers, didnā€™t save the reference material but I think it is on reddit or something), according to which calculations you would need hundreds or maybe even a thousand or more PI alts producing stuff for an entire year or more to get the stuff you need, not to mention those items like janitors and such which can not be produced by conventional means so you require to farm missions or whatnot that provide them. Another figure I read being mentioned several times is that all the PI production in the entirety of New Eden (including WHs so the entire game as I recall) up to this date would not be enough to build the Palatine even if magically it was put together. So yeah, even if all these figures are half-true it is still such an undertaking that it is funny on its own and if someone tries to do it even more funny. In the end it will be popped soon and the first to pop it will be mentioned on the monument that will be created at the destruction site of the first Palatine, and if ever another one is built and destroyed that will not create such a monument only the first one. At least that is what I read. Regarding the monthly report and this possibility, it is easy, if the trend continues or becomes even more prominent for entire months, probably a year but most probably several year then yes someone might be building one or preparing the stuff to do so, otherwise it is more probable that something else is going on. Either way even the notion of the possibility is funny and if someone actually tries to do it it is even more so. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/39 "2018-08-17T13:12:54Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > It was me and it was primarily a joke including both possibilities as it is unlikely someone would do that BUT there is always the theoretical possibility in which case it is even more funny if that is the case. > ā€¦ > In the end it will be popped soon and the first to pop it will be mentioned on the monument that will be created at the destruction site of the first Palatine, and if ever another one is built and destroyed that will not create such a monument only the first one. At least that is what I read. > > Regarding the monthly report and this possibility, it is easy, if the trend continues or becomes even more prominent for entire months, probably a year but most probably several year then yes someone might be building one or preparing the stuff to do so, otherwise it is more probable that something else is going on. I mean, it might not get popped if someoneā€™s putting it in say a Hard Knocks or Lazerhawks WHā€¦ I hear those Keep Stars in their c6s are pretty unassailable. But on that note, maybe itā€™s just a whole lotta regular non-shiny citadel importing/production going on in Everyshore all of a sudden out of nowhere. > [@ThreeOfSix\_AdjunctP349](#): > > Wormholes donā€™t even get a mention in economic reports? And if thatā€™s the case, then there kinda WAS a WH mention in the MER besides the usual blue loot NPC buy order commodities report this past month! > [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > In Everyshore you had a lot more Imports, meaing stuff either stayed there, was destroyed there or several Trillions went into the Wormhole. And yeah, that would fit with what weā€™re talking about. INTRIGUING. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596/40 "2018-08-17T17:26:09Z")
Wut? Your view is not at all supprted by the data. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-july-2018/96596.md?page=3)