# Monthly Economic Report - November 2019

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** mer, official, devblog\
**Created:** [December 9, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439 "2019-12-09T16:50:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439/61 "2019-12-13T06:55:43Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Blooders. Sansha are over in Stain et al.

I’m sorry, I do incursions. If I’m not shooting at NPC Sansha I’m doing it wrong.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Just remember that if the ‘limited supply’ button comes down _too_ hard, we won’t _stop_ , we’ll just start a slow steamroller through null as we keep moving to strip-mine everyone else’s space. There needs to be a balance point between conflict and stability, or everything eventually winds up ground down under the biggest group’s heel.

Well, no, the big group has to be faster than the group just big enough to eat everything in front of them, or you starve.

Much like the joke about the two hunters running from the bear, they don’t need to outrun the bear, just each other.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> It also needs to be remembered that a lot of the time, what gets labelled ‘risk aversion’ is simply a reasonable cost/benefit analysis that comes back with ‘my _time_ is worth more than the fun I’d get from the experience’.

Totally agree. A 100 interceptor fleet wasn’t any fun to engage with, and so its entirely right that it gets bosun’d to oblivion coming out of a gate. It should be recognised that some prat in a prospect with covert cyno is equally not fun and when all the people dock up and wait for their absurdity obvious hot drop bait to get bored and go away.

Yet dare I mention the plague that is cloaky camping? For some reason this kind of extremely unengageable gameplay is still considered valid.

> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> I get that but i also believe if Supers weren’t the “goto” for most situations the game would be more active and more people would get a little enjoyment defending or attacking space.  
> I in no way “blame” Goons for using Supers as CCP designed them to be used.

When I started in eve, capitals could only shoot at other capitals.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> But either way, I stand by my earlier statement: people coming to screw w/Delve can either bring enough to be worth the time and effort to deal with them in a reasonable way, or we’ll deal with them in an unreasonable way.

The dumb thing is they keep going where they’re not wanted and they think the response will change.

> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> The whole idea behind Bloc defences is to not put their space at risk, that’s why when ever someone tries they will be met with overwhelming defence fleets.

Except when PL/NC decided they wanted to steal a bunch of factional stations to make oodles of ISK off their sale.

> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> CCP wrongly “presumed” these two things would create the sort of fights that would generate headlines (free advertising) in mainstream media - Instead as predicted by many, they turned the game into what we have today, a mere shadow of what was once a great game.

EN24 and INN reporting about glorious battles in 99% TiDi where 1000 titans were dropped on a medium engineering complex and was fought over almost as long as it takes to manufacture.

> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Sammy, this is the dumbest idea ever and the only surefire way to kill EVE Online.

Dumbest idea since blackout?

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439/62 "2019-12-13T11:53:43Z")

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- ISK Velocity is back up to pre-blackout level despite heightened taxes - is good
- MPI is almost at all-time low - not good
- Outer Passage outratted Delve - very concerning.

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**Author:** ![Dex\_Orionis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dex_orionis/32/176078_2.png) [@Dex\_Orionis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dex_Orionis)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439/63 "2019-12-31T04:00:03Z")

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Why no data from wormholes?

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**Author:** ![Caryl\_Dunant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caryl_dunant/32/306428_2.png) [@Caryl\_Dunant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caryl_Dunant)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439/64 "2020-01-08T08:56:35Z")

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I have a question regarding invasion payout. There is no specific segment in isk faucet from invasion sites. However, there is a clear uptick of incoming isk under “incursion”, which makes little sense since there are less highsec incursions now.

Is it safe to assume that incursion-like payouts (invasion) are included in that segment?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Dopamine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_dopamine/32/280835_2.png) [@CCP\_Dopamine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Dopamine)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2019/205439/65 "2020-04-07T09:10:01Z")

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