# Monthly Economic Report - November 2020

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** mer, official, devblog\
**Created:** [December 17, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722 "2020-12-17T22:06:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Abyssal\_Hawk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyssal_hawk/32/340421_2.png) [@Abyssal\_Hawk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyssal_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/21 "2020-12-18T12:17:29Z")

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Where is Pochven?

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**Author:** ![Blythe\_Valley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blythe_valley/32/506111_2.png) [@Blythe\_Valley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blythe_Valley)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/22 "2020-12-18T12:33:54Z")

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> [@Abyssal\_Hawk](#):
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> Pochven

Pochven is in the csv data:

nothing really happening other than destruction

Trade went from 66 billion to 39 billion  
Mining went from 203 billion to 33 billion  
Production went from 86 billion to effectively 22 billion  
npc bounties went from 0.3 billion to effectively nil  
Destruction went from 1.2 trillion to 0.6 trillion

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**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/23 "2020-12-18T12:55:12Z")

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> [@Blythe\_Valley](#):
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> Pochven is in the csv data:
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> nothing really happening other than destruction

So, what is the purpose of Pochven? Another rubbish content after messing with a lot of players both active and returning?

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/24 "2020-12-18T13:14:41Z")

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What happened during the Revelations expansion that all Economic Indices fall below 100? And why since then only the Consumer Price Index still remain on 60% position? During the past two years the Velocity of ISK fell from 0.8 to 0.4, but CPI remains the same.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/25 "2020-12-18T13:49:19Z")

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Absolutely as expected.

Mining does not exist.

Ratting only done in botting regions.

Anyone with a single brain cell could tell that would happen. Not CCP.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/26 "2020-12-18T14:34:14Z")

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> [@Tharvus](#):
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> Anything that advocates afk/botting grind is bad in an MMO that is about interaction and effort=value.

Nice ,. Cause ess doesn’t hurt afk/botting at all. They will just take the ESS loss as they do 0 effort anyway.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/27 "2020-12-18T14:58:17Z")

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> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#):
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> there are people who are straight up making more money with the DBS, and it’s now been buffed twice

Yeah quite few ppl compared to all others that got screwed.

> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#):
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> those that are actually adapting are starting to coming out way ahead.

Tell that to ppl who is fighting a war and trying to raise ADM up so your space don’t get toasted( a d yes talking about ■■■■■■■ empty belts too) also the new anoms are a joke. as example, I arrived at home and tried to find  
Something to mine… Nope… all empty . Next pocket… empty… third pocket… empty… And we NOT using rorquals… yeah great idea, just killing people activity in the name of " increasing PvP" witch is not going up.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/28 "2020-12-18T15:20:25Z")

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Delve is definitely still on top… er… wait…

Oh… Oh my.

They must still lead in mini… oh wow.

_snicker_

ha… 🙂 hahaha… 😁 HAHAHAHAHA… 😅

🤣 😂 🤣 BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

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**Author:** ![Skriven\_Penshar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skriven_penshar/32/249904_2.png) [@Skriven\_Penshar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skriven_Penshar)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/29 "2020-12-18T16:01:20Z")

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Placid, Devoid & Solitude seem to be living up to their names

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**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/30 "2020-12-18T16:08:35Z")

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the math is simple, when players stop playing , numbers go down.

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**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/31 "2020-12-18T16:12:15Z")

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and another thing. the index should never drop to 30% just because no one comes to pvp . Lets get real about the low end instead of touting the high end that doesnt happen in most systems

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/32 "2020-12-18T16:13:28Z")

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Well CCP crushed ratting in November but backed off those changes in December.

And despite all of the work, destruction is down and faucets are still outpacing sinks.

Looks like a plan B is in order.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/33 "2020-12-18T16:58:13Z")

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> [@Flanidia](#):
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> Well CCP crushed ratting in November but backed off those changes in December.

October. And not backed off.  
MESS is still there, so ratting won’t be a thing, so is my sub.

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**Author:** ![Synil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synil/32/276766_2.png) [@Synil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synil)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/34 "2020-12-18T18:44:15Z")

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Bounty is surprisingly low, back to the blackout level, how is that even possible

those data are 100% accurate? what about the bounty reversed by the ESS itself does it count ? and stolen ESS aswell?

if those data are 100%accurate, congrats CCP it’s waaay better than blackout when farming was completly impossible, now it’s possible, more rewarding and have the same effect on the economy

hope to see the upcoming reward promised before the blackout

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**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/35 "2020-12-18T19:05:16Z")

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I’m one of them. I choose the system with the highest bounty modifier, rather than highest millitary index, in the pocket once the ADMs have been maintained

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**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/36 "2020-12-18T19:05:57Z")

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can I have your stuff?

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**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/37 "2020-12-18T19:06:20Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> October. And not backed off.  
> MESS is still there, so ratting won’t be a thing, so is my sub.

The MER is for November.

And yes, they backed off on MESS changes. Made it more profitable to rat. Perhaps you missed it since you unsubbed

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**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/38 "2020-12-18T19:09:10Z")

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No, dynamic bounties do not rely on PvP. they rely on not large scale farming.

Stale content isn’t why people farm sites. its the isk. if it were more exciting, they would still farm them afk.

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**Author:** ![Synil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synil/32/276766_2.png) [@Synil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synil)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/39 "2020-12-18T19:10:08Z")

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and if those data are accurate i don’t think they need to remove automated drone aggresion to reduce inflation, the ESS already did it extreamly well

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/monthly-economic-report-november-2020/285722/40 "2020-12-18T19:39:40Z")

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The drone aggression mechanics are an attempt to stop low input gameplay. Not strictly to deal with isk faucets.

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