# Moon Mineral Distribution Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [March 27, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099 "2020-03-27T14:01:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/213 "2020-03-27T19:15:22Z")
Fine then please list the patch notes showing all those buffs mining has received. Dates as well since they aren’t when you think. Here is my list from the last time we had this conversation: - [December 2019](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q2tmpn/resource-distribution) Major Anomaly nerf - [April 2019](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pphodr/patch-notes-for-april-2019-release) Excavator nerf and anomaly nerf - [March 2019](https://www.eveonline.com/article/po1p6y/patch-notes-for-march-2019-release) Anomaly nerf - [December 2018](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pjdior/parch-notes-for-december-2018-release) Anomaly nerf - [June 2017](https://www.eveonline.com/article/patch-notes-for-june-2017-release) Fighter nerf and mining anomaly nerf - [March 2017](https://www.eveonline.com/article/patch-notes-for-yc119.3-release) Very minor rorqual nerf - [December 2016](https://www.eveonline.com/article/patch-notes-for-yc118.10-release) Excavator nerf And then [November 2016](https://www.eveonline.com/article/patch-notes-for-eve-online-ascension) the introduction of excavators. So where are these buffs you are saying happened? ---
**Author:** ![Ragori\_Mitternacht](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragori_mitternacht/32/371130_2.png) [@Ragori\_Mitternacht](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragori_Mitternacht)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/214 "2020-03-27T19:15:29Z")
Ok, I am a small corp leader and to be honest the original Moon Mining seemed very advantageous especially since we were living and working in a WH so doing all that mining under the guns of a structure was very nice especially since we would go days with no ore anoms popping up. Now though you are removing all basic material except a few which, to be honest, removes any advantage of a small corp to own a moon mining set up. The only advantage it seems is to the much bigger corporations and alliances while those of medium and smaller types seem to be forgotten. I mean yes it is nice to have more moon goo available but the way you have it set up unless my small corp has a lot of BP’s for moon good there is no point in going through the whole process of scanning down the moon getting the refinery placement just right and spending all that isk on fuel. I can only speak from my limited point of view I just hope I have gotten my point across. Essentially unless your corp or alliance is massive then all that moon goo goes to waste because even selling it yields only a minimal profit. mining and compressing asteroid ore from belts or anoms is far more lucrative than moon goo. Guess we will just have to wait and see what is to come but to be honest it doesn’t look like it is worth investing my time or isk into moon mining anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/215 "2020-03-27T19:16:06Z")
> [@Alexis\_Aylet](#): > > The “scarcity phase” is not a phase… the reductions in ore and other resources will be ongoing and permanent. As i understand he wasn’t talking about every change associated with scarcity. Only some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Ragori\_Mitternacht](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragori_mitternacht/32/371130_2.png) [@Ragori\_Mitternacht](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragori_Mitternacht)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/216 "2020-03-27T19:16:16Z")
lol they are there they are just called an anti-buff ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/217 "2020-03-27T19:17:49Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > Also in what world does highsec produce enough ore to manufacture ships for a large player base? Where did I say just hisec? Look back at the posts in that chain. ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/218 "2020-03-27T19:19:59Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > > [@Stevens](#): > > > > Also in what world does highsec produce enough ore to manufacture ships for a large player base? > > Where did I say just hisec? > > Look back at the posts in that chain. Right here: > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > you can mine highsec ore and reprocess mods from missions for that. Don’t forget the volume of ore in nullsec was cut by 66%. ---
**Author:** ![Alanton\_Greyhawks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alanton_greyhawks/32/194115_2.png) [@Alanton\_Greyhawks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alanton_Greyhawks)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/219 "2020-03-27T19:21:09Z")
they wont buy since people are losing their jobs! ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/220 "2020-03-27T19:22:55Z")
Lol in that case in null you can just plain mine to make battleships. Ever since the MER’s started we’ve been producing 2-3 times more than we destroy. So with 66% reduction you’re breaking even. ---
**Author:** ![Tel\_Kontar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tel_kontar/32/194150_2.png) [@Tel\_Kontar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tel_Kontar)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/221 "2020-03-27T19:25:27Z")
Great Changes! looking forward to more good stuff guys ---
**Author:** ![Roughneck\_Reject](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roughneck_reject/32/243881_2.png) [@Roughneck\_Reject](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roughneck_Reject)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/222 "2020-03-27T19:27:10Z")
All roads lead to higher plex sales. Make in-game income hard to earn so you buy plex to sell to other players who have resources. PLEX PLEX PLEX is literally their only business model. PVP bonus? More ships boom, cost isk to replace, make mins hard to get, ships cost more and bam PLEX PLEX PLEX. Did I mention all roads lead to plex sales? ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/223 "2020-03-27T19:29:21Z")
Back to the Basics … i can remember where we ned to scan for Belts (Gravimetric Anos) , then they changed it to 100% Annos. They the brought us the Athanors in W-Space… and a few month later… they brought them to 0.5 System. But i have to say… this move was forseen. Back to the Roots … ---
**Author:** ![Maikai\_Maui](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maikai_maui/32/332268_2.png) [@Maikai\_Maui](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maikai_Maui)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/224 "2020-03-27T19:31:43Z")
Guess time to set training ques to max and let them run don’t think I’m going to resub I will be back in a year or so once you figue this sh%t out, fly safe or not up to you some decent games coming out! World of Warships, Red Dead 2 here I come! Good luck! (Think they don’t want your accunts plexed they want your cash it so obvious trying to mask true intent. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/225 "2020-03-27T19:33:01Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > So where are these buffs you are saying happened? Holy ■■■■. If you can’t understand CCP screwed up so much by buffing way more than was healthy for the game, take the blinkers off. But you are right, miners have been able to gauge the game for longer than the last 2 years (3 years). - [Moon mining changes](https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-goo-must-flow-everything-about-refineries-and-moon-mining/) - [Mining Foreman Ship Progression](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#PROG) - [The Three Pillars of Mining Foreman Gameplay](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#PILLARS) - [Mining Foreman Burst Details](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#BURST) - [Mining Drones Revisited](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#DRONES) - [The Porpoise](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#PORP) - [The Orca](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#ORCA) - [The Rorqual](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#RORQ) - [Other ORE ship changes](https://newsfeed.eveonline.com/en-US/2/articles/page/1/20#ORE) There have also been new skills introduced for mining drones (2016) and UI improvements like the mining ledger. Mining has had more buffs in recent years (and more overall focus) than just about any other area of the game. Unfortunately, CCP made it so good that players naturally made the most of that (not the players fault that the trough was full). Now they are rolling things back, but to come back to the point - minerals will still be available and be fine. They were for 15 years and still will be, despite the pains that this causes for individual players. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/226 "2020-03-27T19:33:57Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > Everything coming out of CSM I have heard is pretty doom and gloom Really? Because I’ve heard CSM members express some optimism after the last summit. > [@Stevens](#): > > Their complete refusal to explain how they intend to fix this is a pretty clear indication their either don’t intend to or have no idea. CCP Hilmar said a while back that he wanted to inject the mystery back into Eve. They’ve been doing various stuff to do achieve this, including restricting access to the test server, not putting certain content on the test server, intentionally pushing bad info to the test server so that bad info would get reported by hoboleaks (Matterall said this on a TiS; I don’t know where he got this from, but I do know that I’ve seen stuff on hobo-leaks that never materialized), and remaining rather tight lipped on what they’re doing and why. Now, I wish they would be more forthcoming, but it is not a clear indication that they aren’t going to make further changes or have no idea what they’re doing. Their plan may be good; it may be bad. But just because they wont share it with us, that doesn’t mean that it must be bad (or non-existent). > [@Stevens](#): > > CCP just throwing ideas at the wall with no real concern for consequences. Really? You think that the 400million dollar business doesn’t care about consequences in it’s flagship product?.. You know what, this thread is so salty it’s giving me heart-disease. You guys have fun. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/227 "2020-03-27T19:34:53Z")
This thread has a higher salt concentration than the Dead Sea… ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/228 "2020-03-27T19:36:08Z")
Only the very first link works so I am not sure what these other links are supposed to be? I will add the moons being switched to my saved list of changes though as that is at least the first valid buff someone has provided when asked this question. Please let me know what those other links are supposed to be because I am curious if I have missed something else. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muad_dib_madeveda/32/469730_2.png) [@Muad\_Dib\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muad_Dib_Madeveda)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/229 "2020-03-27T19:36:37Z")
its already too much, why do you have to continue to make this game harder n harder to learn n play the biggest complain I hear about this game ( that its too hard to hard to learn it n I just don’t that much time to invest in it ) so there also goes my investment in all the refines I was going to buy out the window, and now what more time to skill this book or that book and more equipment n more books n more b.s. enough all already you take enough income from the game already w taxes n broker fees n plex n account time whats next docking fees to land wtf i’m don’t ranting n I done w this game ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/230 "2020-03-27T19:37:38Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > Only the very first link works They all work fine for me. They are from the news feeds, so are RSS feeds which were the easiest to search. Howefver, minerals will continue to be fine. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/231 "2020-03-27T19:38:13Z")
It’s funny to see how changes bring so many first time posters to the forum. They got used to making ISK on autopilot, now that has been interrupted… ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/232 "2020-03-27T19:38:52Z")
Actually not as bad as I was expecting to be honest. I was expecting a full redistributing of moons but it sounds like normal moon goo will stay roughly intact from this. The removal of basic minerals from moon goo really doesn’t change anything, if that’s how you were getting your minerals you’re doing it wrong anyway. The removal of normal ore completely obviously hurts, but we knew that was coming for well over a month now. And despite some conspiracy theory BS going on here, it’s obvious that they’re directly hitting basic minerals, just like CCP said they were going to. This has nothing to do with PLEX or forcing people to spend real world money. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099.md?page=12)