# Moon Mineral Distribution Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [March 27, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099 "2020-03-27T14:01:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/615 "2020-03-30T07:38:49Z")
No. I’m claming that they know it cost way more to the ganker than them so they can afk freely without any form of potential threats that came from player. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/616 "2020-03-30T07:39:02Z")
> [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > Also they use Orca mainly for it’s Cargo. No they use orca for its drones, as it’s a drone mining ship, like the VNI was used for its drones as it’s a drone combat ship. (same for gila) > [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > No. I’m claming that they know it cost way more to the ganker than them so they can afk freely without any form of potential threats that came from player. and that’s how it’s supposed to be. Just because people can use 20-ppl trash fleet catalysts to gank people, does not make it something good for the game. ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/617 "2020-03-30T07:41:12Z")
The thing you don’t understand it’s not about drone or strip miner Jesus it’s about going afk for a large amount of time so you use the ship that will not waste it’s time loking at rock doing nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/618 "2020-03-30T07:42:26Z")
It’s not. It’s about the ship being too expensive for you to gank it with a 2M catalyst, and so you crying about it. Nobody cares if he’s AFK for ten hours. He is not mining for ten hours. ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/619 "2020-03-30T07:43:41Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > It’s not. It’s about the ship being too expensive for you to gank it with a 2M catalyst, and so you crying about it. Absolutly Hillarious You clearly Don’t understand my point ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/620 "2020-03-30T07:43:55Z")
> [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > afk freely without any form of potential threats that came from player. Players can still gank it and it costs the Orca pilot more than the Ganker. Also actually AFK Orca’s get reamed regularly by Trigs now. Since they can’t have combat drones and mining drones out together. So… Yeah, I think you are overstating the issue here, and its irrelevant since it’s not anything to do with moon mining changes now. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/621 "2020-03-30T07:46:13Z")
> [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > You clearly Don’t understand my point I clearly understand you are trying to push an agenda. My orca ore is full after 2h6m. Assuming the rocks are huge enough. This is a non-problem you are complaining about. The only issue I can see, is that mining AFK should not be worth, for anybody. CCP tried to change that with the triglavians, but it’s just that the whole gameplay is plainly bad : no interaction, no optimization. However, being active is already much more worth than being passive. The issue being, that being passive should be 0% of the active value : if you are AFK, you should not mine anything. This is not doable with something like forcing drone/laser deactivation, because THAT would literally not affect botters. ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/622 "2020-03-30T07:50:18Z")
I will stop argu because the only thing you are understanding is : He complain about not being able to gank or the orca being OP. Instead of the amount of player/alt that roam around safe from anything saturating market is not healty for the game. But like said Nevyn Auscent CCP removed base ore from moon. Let’s hope that Redistrubution phase is not rush. And for me the orca is not a mining platforme but a boosting platforme if CCP want to get ride of it make it unable to mine and give him better boost so it stay at it’s primary role. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/623 "2020-03-30T07:52:56Z")
> [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > He complain about not being able to gank or the orca being OP That’s literally what you explained. > [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > Instead of the amount of player/alt that roam around safe from anything saturating market is not healty for the game. That’s just BS. look at the MER and HS production. What is that saturating ? Nothing. Because the AFK orca have a lower yield than a noobship with only one laser and no skill (and that’s assuming all HS mining is done with AFK orca, which is just completely wrong). > [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > And for me the orca is not a mining platforme but a boosting platforme You can ignore reality as much as you want, only makes you delusional. Nobody gives a fck about your distorted opinion. The orca is a logistic, mining and boosting platform, that is only better in its role as a boosting platform. ---
**Author:** ![GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/goddessofpeace_ishikela/32/304061_2.png) [@GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GoddessOfPeace_Ishikela)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/624 "2020-03-30T07:54:59Z")
one orca have same mining potential as a skiff, and there is like 50 afk orcas per system. Seems u really understimate this ■■■■■■■■ mate 🔴 ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/625 "2020-03-30T07:55:21Z")
And there it is always talking about Yield or Efficiency. If it was not efficient they will not be that much use your brain for once also stop ASSUMING what I said to be BS ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/626 "2020-03-30T07:57:24Z")
> [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > If it was not efficient they will not be that much use your brain for once also stop ASSUMING what I said to be BS Yes what you said is BS, therefore your argument makes no sense. Hint : you assume that every orca is AFK. That’s the assumption of your argument that is just plainly wrong. > [@GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](#): > > and there is like 50 afk orcas per system. {citation needed} This can’t be true. I went through systems with 0 people besides me, so either I had lot of local channel issues, or you are just spewing BS. ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/627 "2020-03-30T07:59:20Z")
Oh god if i have to specify everything i will end making a wall of text. Also undock and roam around idk where you live but we are clearly not playing the same game ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/628 "2020-03-30T08:00:00Z")
Instead of making a wall of BS ? You claim that AFK orca are efficient AND have an impact on the game without any proof. That’s just BS. ---
**Author:** ![GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/goddessofpeace_ishikela/32/304061_2.png) [@GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GoddessOfPeace_Ishikela)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/629 "2020-03-30T08:00:04Z")
Try make a tour in 0.5 systems mate, exemple of Trash Murkon : Ivih, Anjedin , hibi. If u go to Sing Leason region, u have like 9 0.5 systems with 50+ orcas daily ( like system Augnais or Jolia ) . I can understatand dat your HS carebear and move 1j from your HQ is dangerous. But mate make a tour in eve and ull see a lot of BS around. Specially orcas. 50 orcas = 50 skiff = 10 rorquals per system who mine 23.5h daily for 7/7d . If u saying its have NO IMPACT, seems u need stop mine in ventures ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/630 "2020-03-30T08:01:04Z")
I wonder if you have any argument at all instead of “BS” ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/631 "2020-03-30T08:01:36Z")
Woa you found ONE system with 50 Orca. Now that does not prove that “there is 50 **AFK** orcas **per system** ”. Please learn to make argument. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/632 "2020-03-30T08:02:07Z")
> [@Dragon\_Savron](#): > > I wonder if you have any argument at all instead of “BS” When you argument is BS, the only correct argument is to claim it as so, as to not waste time with your BS. ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Savron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragon_savron/32/187292_2.png) [@Dragon\_Savron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragon_Savron)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/633 "2020-03-30T08:02:32Z")
He point several place seriously man Stop ---
**Author:** ![GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/goddessofpeace_ishikela/32/304061_2.png) [@GoddessOfPeace\_Ishikela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GoddessOfPeace_Ishikela)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moon-mineral-distribution-update/228099/634 "2020-03-30T08:02:41Z")
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