# ⭐ MOONPIRE Investment Bank !closed! **URL:** \ **Category:** Market Discussions\ **Created:** [March 27, 2018, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183 "2018-03-27T09:23:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/101 "2018-04-06T21:15:19Z")
Well, thats what we told him to do. To wait, and get the isk from his injector farms. After ignoring us for a couple posts, insulting us, and accusing us of calling him a scammer, he finally decided to wait. ---
**Author:** ![Arisha\_Moon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arisha_moon/32/420765_2.png) [@Arisha\_Moon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arisha_Moon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/102 "2018-04-07T06:28:59Z")
only that it is clear here! I do not ask you about your isk! I offer a service and do not ask you. You’re here all the time asking questions, not me. and your collateral logic is pure nonsense. here in the game, it makes no sense to deposit collaterally, because you can use it yourself. Anything you can do is give useless advice and flamen, what else is not coming from you. just ignore this, I did not call you here, you came yourself! Come, because not able to do something. like the vulture. As I said I did not call you here you came yourself! and you asked questions, not me. So keep the ball flat. I was still so polite and I take note of your suggestions, although I have already written from the very beginning that it will not make a difference what you show, none of you spam will invest, because it is like in real life, the poorest have a lot of fear and cause the most effort, just here … And I have an excellent perception, take care of your first. As I said I do not want your isk, with such investors you do not need enemies anymore, I prefer it. Sooner or later, the right people come to me, people who are not looking for washcloths, but those who simply do it without arguing. You can write here what you want, it does not matter. the little folk has always been like that. you do not understand it differently. ---
**Author:** ![Spod\_Khema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spod_khema/32/52747_2.png) [@Spod\_Khema](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spod_Khema)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/103 "2018-04-07T14:26:55Z")
🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Xylem\_Viliana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xylem_viliana/32/11866_2.png) [@Xylem\_Viliana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xylem_Viliana)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/104 "2018-04-07T14:59:56Z")
Arisha, The most helpful comment I can make to you is simply this, turn around and walk away, you have burned almost every bridge people have shown you, as amusing as this thread has been, continuing it will only tarnish your future reputation further. Secondly learn how to have constructive discussions with people, if this is you attempting to be constructive in your discussion, you will not get far in here. Let this “bank/Investment” topic die and be archived, build your reputation as a trader, work on your people skills and perhaps re-assess things later. I wish you luck and hope you will heed my advice. ---
**Author:** ![Arisha\_Moon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arisha_moon/32/420765_2.png) [@Arisha\_Moon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arisha_Moon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/105 "2018-04-07T15:20:19Z")
I will certainly not need any more isk later, but when I needed it, everyone here was up to the guru himself. and to me the opinion of this spamer is uninteresting. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/106 "2018-04-07T15:58:36Z")
There have been many similar investment schemes proposed in the past, many of these have turned out to be scams. You have no previous form and I can’t find a single vouch in this thread from any known and trusted player. Add to that, you’re trying to raise a seriously large wodge of ISK. The proposed returns are rather modest (3% on 1b/month = 30m interest per month, that’s roughly ratting a single Hub in a VNI) and **no collateral is being offered.** Look over the forums, I suggest looking at some of Angelica Everstar’s investment bonds threads. They come about every so often (and I always seem to miss out by a day or so). Too many people have been burned badly in the past by similar sounding schemes, hence most of the people with the kind of liquid ISK available will run a mile from anything that even remotely looks like a Ponzi Scheme, which frankly, this does. Credit where due, your Mobile Depot advertising banners are impressive. Start smaller. Build up and make a name for yourself as an honest character instead of starting by asking for three quarters of a trillion ISK (which is a mindblowing sum for most players). ---
**Author:** ![Arisha\_Moon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arisha_moon/32/420765_2.png) [@Arisha\_Moon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arisha_Moon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/107 "2018-04-07T16:55:11Z")
Hmmm do you think that people would have come at higher returns? I do not even have a problem to pay the people 10%, I have simply oriented myself to the others who have opened something like this. ---
**Author:** ![Brock\_Khans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brock_khans/32/409174_2.png) [@Brock\_Khans](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brock_Khans)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/108 "2018-04-07T17:04:26Z")
With the length of this thread, and the amount of text here. No one is going to invest. I think your best option is to let the water settle down, keep doing yoru thing and making good profits, to show the next time around you want to attempt this. That or, start taking out some Collateralized loans ---
**Author:** ![Arisha\_Moon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arisha_moon/32/420765_2.png) [@Arisha\_Moon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arisha_Moon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/109 "2018-04-07T17:10:30Z")
That’s it 🙂 . but as I said later I need nothing more … ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/110 "2018-04-07T21:08:44Z")
> [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > only that it is clear here! I do not ask you about your isk! I offer a service and do not ask you. Actually, you did. You asked everyone, because this is a public forums and you were making a public request for isk. > [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > and your collateral logic is pure nonsense. here in the game, it makes no sense to deposit collaterally, because you can use it yourself. It was a suggestion to help you. You had no history of trade on this forums, zero history of actual, positive posts, and asking for a whopping 750 billion isk. Again, we made that as a suggestion to help you. And yet you throw it in our faces because you want the isk without any risk to yourself. > [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > I was still so polite and I take note of your suggestions, although I have already written from the very beginning that it will not make a difference what you show, none of you spam will invest, because it is like in real life, the poorest have a lot of fear and cause the most effort, just here … Hahaha, no. You were not very polite, at all. Complaining to ISD because two people wrote very valid concerns and linked to a previous post of yours that did poorly, is not very polite. Complaining about why Sebastian Vox, who was genuinely trying to help you, as well as uphold his fiduciary responsibility in informing us of his concerns, would ever write anything other than confirming that you were a trader, is not very polite. Accusing people of calling you a scammer, when one of them, namely myself, stated that he did think you were legit, and when pointed out this fact, ignored or did not apologize for your own baseless accusations while getting angry against other people who you think are accusing you of being a scammer, is not very polite, and kinda hypocritical too. I could go on, but yeah, you are not polite. You are very rude. > [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > Sooner or later, the right people come to me, people who are not looking for washcloths, but those who simply do it without arguing. This was our advice from the beginning. Wait. Infact, you acknowledged this from your previous thread: Continuing the discussion from [Delete pls](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delete-pls/63464/37): > [@](#): > > people dont trust and didnt see anything from my doing. so i will start it with my small capital and if people see it is successfull, then they can invest. So we are understandably baffled as to why you decided to show up two days later with this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/111 "2018-04-07T21:11:42Z")
> [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > and to me the opinion of this spamer is uninteresting. To everyone else, the opinion of this spammer and your replies to this spammer, is very interesting. And perhaps, if you had found them interesting, and more importantly, listened to them, you would have done a better job in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/112 "2018-04-07T21:13:27Z")
> [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > Hmmm do you think that people would have come at higher returns? I do not even have a problem to pay the people 10%, I have simply oriented myself to the others who have opened something like this. Too high a return is also an indication of a scam to some people. Again, start small, with smaller sums. That was my advice at the beginning of this thread. But I guess you are “uninterested” in the help i offered you this entire time. ---
**Author:** ![Arisha\_Moon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arisha_moon/32/420765_2.png) [@Arisha\_Moon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arisha_Moon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/113 "2018-04-07T21:16:04Z")
Nobody ever said that I need 750 billion at once, the minimum sum is still at 1 billion, is it already too big? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/114 "2018-04-07T21:34:05Z")
> [@Arisha\_Moon](#): > > Nobody ever said that I need 750 billion at once, the minimum sum is still at 1 billion, is it already too big? > [@500mil loan, 1-2 month period, 3-5%/month](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/500mil-loan-1-2-month-period-3-5-month/62546): > > Hey guys, I’m trying to expedite my skillup training and get into a VNI so I can afk farm. I’m an alpha character, just started a few weeks ago but I’m in a great corp and they’ve been helping me out a lot. My ultimate goal is to plex from alpha, but the wait time for skill training is intolerable in the early stages IMO… I’m very active, play at least 3-4 hours a day so I’m fairly certain I can make it up within a few weeks. I don’t have much in terms of collateral, since I started not too l… People ask for 500 mill uncollateralized loans and still get shot down/called a scam. You have to keep in mind that you are essentially asking for an uncollateralized loan. Also, the fear here is that without enough isk, your venture could fizzle. And this is the problem and the distinction you must make. You must either have a venture that requires a lot of isk, but also provide steady returns, or you must have a venture where you dont need isk because your own isk and your own methods of making isk will be more than enough to cover for the payouts even if you dont get the required funds. If you are choosing for option 2, then, again, our advice is for you to wait. If you dont need the full, or even a certain amount of isk in order for your venture to come to fruition, and your isk in your wallet is more than enough to cover for it, then simply wait. You need to build up trust with the community in order to ask for something like this. Someone with no history of trade or investment, will not be getting any isk, because the risk is just too high. > [@New Bank of New Eden](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688): > > I’m creating an official New Bank of New Eden thread for the MD forums. The New Bank of New Eden is a player-run bank offering services to the capsuleers of New Eden. The Bank has a website here: [Website](http://newbankofneweden.wordpress.com) There are FAQ sections on the website, and transparency in the form of 3-day daily reports and trading reports. Another player-run bank you say? Yes, but I am hoping to learn from the mistakes that made player-run banks fail in the past (EBank) and hopefully provide the banking service for t… check out how much crap this guy got, when he was essentially running the same business as you. ---
**Author:** ![Alexi\_Stokov](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Alexi\_Stokov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Stokov)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/115 "2018-04-07T23:37:25Z")
At this point, I think the best case scenario for miss moon is that her grasp on English is poor and that a lot is being lost in translation. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/116 "2018-04-08T07:40:13Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > To everyone else, the opinion of this spammer and your replies to this spammer, is very interesting. +1, 001. ---
**Author:** ![Vale\_Koenig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vale_koenig/32/425268_2.png) [@Vale\_Koenig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vale_Koenig)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/117 "2018-04-12T02:03:56Z")
I have a question for Mrs. Moonpire, I was a member of Moonpire for a couple of days, Mrs. Mooinpire turned out to be a great trader with several trillions of sales a day. What is the current state of affairs? Personally, I would not trust her with an isk. Greetings Vale ---
**Author:** ![Arisha\_Moon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arisha_moon/32/420765_2.png) [@Arisha\_Moon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arisha_Moon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/118 "2018-04-12T19:43:47Z")
Hi, i bought me my own army ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/7/57df5bdf861a819ab907dc0bd7f76a151e4eafda.png) ---
**Author:** ![Vale\_Koenig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vale_koenig/32/425268_2.png) [@Vale\_Koenig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vale_Koenig)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/119 "2018-04-12T19:54:52Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/f/3f0f90f57c9069ee2ead7f0a8d40ee8a2576d7df.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Blort\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blort_nakrar/32/62539_2.png) [@Blort\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blort_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183/120 "2018-04-13T13:13:34Z")
Is Moonpire invest the same that has wasted a lot of isk creating a stupid ASCII in Giant Secure Cans in Jita Near 4-4? Yes. I thought so. Totally responsible with ISK. I wonder who your single investor is? Yourself? 🤣 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moonpire-investment-bank-closed/66183.md?page=7)