# More destroyers and battlecruisers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [January 31, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/more-destroyers-and-battlecruisers/347908 "2022-01-31T13:56:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 28
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/more-destroyers-and-battlecruisers/347908/28 "2022-02-05T16:30:19Z")
> [@random\_rick\_junior](#): > > because maybe people eventually gets bored with the current ships and quits the game. Well if **maybe** that happens… Maybe people quit because there aren’t dinosaurs. > [@random\_rick\_junior](#): > > but like 90% of faction war people I see are all using t1 frigates. Nearly half of the frigates you’ll see in faction warfare are faction or tech2. And that’s with people doing casual pvp. When you take a tech1 frig into a fight in faction warfare you have an ~86% chance of loss. People don’t mind, because like i said, it’s casual. Edit- sorry, closer to 75% of the time. > [@Yet another faction warfare reinvent proposal](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/yet-another-faction-warfare-reinvent-proposal/275691/34): > > Allow me to illustrate it in numbers: In a 24 hour period there were 46 fights in Black Rise that could have taken place in a novice site. 45 (98%) of them were solo fights. Of that 45, 18 (40%) were faction frigs winning against non-faction frigs. 11 (24%) were faction frigs winning against other faction frigs. 14 (31%) were non-faction winning against other non-faction frigs. 2 (4%) were non-faction frigs winning against faction frigs. The one non-solo fight was a gang with a faction frig… > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > The thing about Dachi Yamato, is that he’s an “elite” eve player This is merely an attempt at ad hominem. What we’re talking about has nothing to do with that. This discussion is about using cost as a viable balancing method for ships. To which the answer is overwhelmingly no. The vast majority of the time tech1 ships are used, it’s for casual pvp. Like your solo roams. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/more-destroyers-and-battlecruisers/347908)._