# { MOTIVE } THE ACTUAL PURPOSE OF O.R.E "Kidnapped" Researcher #47

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**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Tags:** roleplay\
**Created:** [March 16, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065 "2022-03-16T17:06:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duke\_Shasta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duke_shasta/32/495942_2.png) [@Duke\_Shasta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duke_Shasta)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/144 "2022-04-03T22:35:26Z")

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> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> after reviewing your Concord file , if you indeed had voted, I think it most certainly would not have counted

My CONCORD file? Which part? The part where I built a colony to provide a home to hundreds of thousands of people? And made economic deals to boost the economic growth of the colony, giving its residents a quality of life comparable to that of a medium security system? Or maybe the part where I helped foil dozens of pirate plots and passed intelligence and captives to local authorities to help them in their continuous war against crime?

Oh … oh, right. By CONCORD, you mean Squizz. And by file, you mean my killboard. Well, guess what. That “file” doesn’t reflect the extent of my activities. I don’t know about others, but I spend much of my time hunting down pirates, removing them from New Eden before their activities can bring harm to more innocent civilians and ruin more lives. I doubt that’s shown on Zkill. And plus, engaging in battles with other capsuleers? … That’s simply a guilty pleasure of mine. I engage in it occasionally, but with a degree of guilt. After all, unlike pirates, fighting capsuleers has little effect on the lives of the trillions of men, women, and children living in the cluster. If anything, it is simply for our personal entertainment. And … well, have you thought of your crew? Ever? I thought not. Well, I do. Each and every one of my crew members is a member of the military of the Sovereign Duchy of Beseth Dunijia - a member of the fledgling Sovereign Duchy Navy, on loan to the Dark Wolf Legion. Their pay is excellent, they get a nice plot of land and an annual stipend upon retirement, and benefits! Don’t forget the benefits! Health insurance, disability insurance, life insurance, everything’s included! But, if I were to engage in fighting as much as you do, well, life insurance would be key there. After all, how many of your crew do you think survive each time your ship goes down? And how many crewmembers do you pick up after destroying a vessel? Of the survivors, which is already a handful, if any, of course.

Oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention that the MIO special investigations team I sent has returned with their findings. They have concluded that the scientist in question, ORE researcher #47, allegedly identified as Mr. Calan Maudelle, is in fact innocent of all charges. They have further discovered an alarming number of discrepancies within the provided evidence and witness testimonies. Upon review by a legal team temporarily attached to the special investigations squad, the special investigations team has found enough evidence to indict multiple exotic dancers and station personnel for perjury, witness tampering, and evidence tampering under Empire law. Of course, this is Thera. I doubt that the parties involved will ever face justice for their crimes. Unfortunately.

- Shasta

Oh, by the way, Legion, industrials and Ventures can’t shoot back. Neither can capsules, corvettes, and shuttles. Well, Ventures, industrials, and corvettes could, but not enough to put up a fight. I don’t think you’re nearly as skilled of a combat pilot as you think you are, so maybe stop being a piece of ■■■■ and pretending you’re important? 'Cuz you’re not.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/145 "2022-04-03T22:55:57Z")

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Why does the Legion Masser and The Milk Man have identical writing and sentence structure?

Seems suspect to me.

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/146 "2022-04-03T23:44:22Z")

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I’m important enough that you wrote me a short story that wont be read , in attempts to justify your terrible statistics … Do you often explain yourself ad nauseum to things that apparently don’t matter?

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Why does the Legion Masser and The Milk Man have identical writing and sentence structure?
> 
> Seems suspect to me.

Yes ! See! Now this guys thinking ! Instead of pointless arguing - He is analyzing the writing structures of Terry’s Champion in order to inspire his own greatness !!

But he is right ! Milkman ??? Do I inspire you to structure your words just like I would mine ?? Do you wish to be me ? It would’t be far fetched to assume you too would also like to be a Pirate as prestigious as Terry’s Champion!

Ax’l sure wants to be, so what’s one more useless fanboy!

We are all Terry … every one of us here

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**Author:** ![Terry\_Tayra\_Thera](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terry_tayra_thera/32/402124_2.png) [@Terry\_Tayra\_Thera](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terry_Tayra_Thera)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/147 "2022-04-04T01:33:26Z")

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Well consider me impressed, I like the way you roll Milkman! It takes a lot to surprise a god!

But what I really like to know is how you got that goddamn transaction ???

Very few had access to that information!

Name your price

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/148 "2022-04-04T01:41:38Z")

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> [@Duke\_Shasta](#):
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> […] industrials and Ventures can’t shoot back.

Wrong.  
I’ve got quite a few kills under my belt using a venture.

They are quite nice when properly fit, and surprising. As this unsuspecting fella found out.

> **[Atron | Skar Zek | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/96844728/)**
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> Skar Zek (The Babby Empire) lost their Atron in Hevrice (Verge Vendor). Final Blow by Ax'l Thorne (Black Rebel Rifter Club) flying solo in a Venture. Total Value: 3,508,395.69 ISK

And far more interesting than this circus, and the clowns running this public execution .

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/149 "2022-04-04T02:00:02Z")

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I cant believe I argued with someone proud of solo killing a Atron … shame

You see with masterful skill and god blessed talent you gain the ability to punch up , defeat things you shouldn’t be able to ALONE in a much less capable and smaller ship

_ **Since you like Examples of Work** _

> **[Tengu | Kirock Ellissidil | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91153511/)**
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> Kirock Ellissidil (Metacrania) lost their Tengu in J120357 (C-R00012) Total Value: 621,020,757.25 ISK

> **[Gila | Still believe | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/92214574/)**
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> Still believe (Shlangovaya) lost their Gila in J153546 (C-R00014). Final Blow by Legion Masser (KROOKBORNE) flying in a Hecate. Total Value: 505,303,521.69 ISK

Want more?

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/150 "2022-04-04T02:00:49Z")

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> **[Proteus | Pectus Solentis | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/96579292/)**
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> Pectus Solentis (The Scope) lost their Proteus in J150234 (B-R00008) Total Value: 416,934,080.42 ISK

> **[Stratios | Mark Teicher | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/92711153/)**
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> Mark Teicher (blingdenstone) lost their Stratios in J132222 (C-R00012) Total Value: 516,672,561.02 ISK

Never argue with me about Talent again … Clown !

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/151 "2022-04-04T02:10:13Z")

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Part I

> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> Never argue with me about Talent again

Where did you get that I was arguing about your talent?

Duke Shasta said: “ Industrials and Ventures can’t shoot back.”

To which I replied: “Yes, they can.” Then I provided evidence.

What does this have to do with you, at all?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/152 "2022-04-04T02:16:38Z")

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Part II

> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> Never argue with me about Talent again

In the examples provided, you shot cruisers, which were not fit for one on one Capsuleer engagement. I’m noticing a total lack of warp scramblers and other fittings that are common for such engagements on those ships.

Good for you. You killed mostly harmless cruisers with a tactical destroyer.

I’ve also noticed, by reviewing your coveted source of all creditable information, ZKillboard, that the only time you do engage ships fit for such engagements, is when you’re in a fleet of 10 or more of your buddies.

Way to go, big man.

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/153 "2022-04-04T02:23:50Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> It’s all just a ■■■■-show of a circus. Terrorist trying to get attention by committing atrocious acts and playing the “edgy” political game.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> He’s obviously starved for attention.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Nice try buddy. Your trash, by virtue and ethos. And so is your False Idol.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> You and your false idol are the scum, that has to be scrapped off the bottom of a barrel of Capsuleer ethos.

You have acted like we were incapable morons from your very first reply .

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Good for you. You killed mostly harmless cruisers with a tactical destroyer.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> You shot cruisers, which were not fit for one on one Capsuleer

SO where are yours ?? If its such an easy task to accomplish , why doesn’t a ACTIVE HUNTER such as yourself have any ?? Afraid???

In each one of those examples , the victims ships are minimum 20 to 1 favorites to win that engagement … I would rather been in the cruisers in every example and so would EVERYONE else with actual combat experience

To say otherwise shows your lack of knowledge on the SOLO battlefield

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**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/154 "2022-04-04T02:26:13Z")

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I confess I made sad faces when the ruby slippers auction (which I positively adored) got derailed by edgy torture execution fetishes (you see, we’ve got this guy who scratches that itch with freighters stuffed to the power of eleven, darling), but now we’re back on track! Intrigue! Dastardly doings!

I !heart! Freedom Entrepreneurs.

There’s always someone renaming the alliance “Nocxback Fan Club” when nobody is looking, or giving priceless blueprints to the Holy Mountain Of Providence, or leaking sensitive information. It keeps life so interesting!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/155 "2022-04-04T02:27:20Z")

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Uh, no. I never said your were incapable as capsuleers. You put those words in my mouth.

I did say your are lacking in morals and ethos, though.

Do learn to read. It will save you further embarrassments.

Like here: [Question of talent.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/verdict-the-execution-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/151)

Which, I noticed you completely ignored. And a prime example of your lack of reading comprehension, too boot.

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/156 "2022-04-04T02:36:19Z")

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You post a pathetic solo as example of your combat prowess whilst calling us trash repeatedly which is a direct shot to our capabilities and thus TALENT

You see I back up what I say with proof and you didn’t expect that

SO?

WHERES YOUR EXAMPLES OF THESE EASY CRUISER KILLS?? HUH??

ACTIVE HUNTER??? We all waiting … talk about embarrassing

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/157 "2022-04-04T02:41:01Z")

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> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> You post a pathetic solo as example of your combat prowess whilst calling us trash repeatedly which is a direct shot to our capabilities and thus TALENT

No I didn’t. Learn to read.

I posted an example of a venture fitted to shooting back.

It had nothing to do with “combat prowess.”

Are you feeling insecure about your abilities? Is that why you’re cramming this thread full of examples for us to ooh and ahh over? Is your ego so fragile that you need to be told that you are an exceptional combat pilot by the community at large? Is that why you are constantly pointing out other peoples Zkillboards and comparing it to yours?

If it makes you feel better, I’ll give you a gold star, and I’ll quote myself for the affirmation that you so desperately seek.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Way to go, big man.

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/158 "2022-04-04T02:48:19Z")

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I quoted you fool , on multiple occasions calling us trash , implying we were running a !@#-show

It seems you don’t like being proven wrong and will grasp at anything to divert attention , even me merely defending our honor with statistics.

All that matters is what you kill in the pirate world

I thought a “ACTIVE HUNTER” would know that ahaha

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/159 "2022-04-04T02:52:25Z")

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> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> implying we were running a !@#-show

I didn’t imply that it was a ■■■■ show.

I said that it, the public execution of the O.R.E. Scientist _is_ a ■■■■ show.

Again, learn to read. Just because you are running a ■■■■ show of a public spectacle concerning the execution of that scientist, that does not necessarily equate to combat capsuleer ability and skill.

It’s false equivalency.

Geesh. Arrendis is right. It’s like shooting a fish in a barrel. It’s almost not even fun at this point.

Almost.

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**Author:** ![Legion\_Masser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion_masser/32/505442_2.png) [@Legion\_Masser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion_Masser)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/160 "2022-04-04T03:11:25Z")

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I don’t know what’s worse when reading your replies

Knowing your opinion rests on a foundation of mediocre piloting  
or  
Somehow you thinking your coming out on top by arguing semantics under the guise of lack of comprehension

Let’s not delay the inevitable any longer and just have you stop replying to my Gods thread as you’ve given us sooo much of your valueless time already … time you could be using to learn how to actually hunt and solo something bigger then you

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/161 "2022-04-04T03:42:59Z")

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> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> Knowing your opinion rests on a foundation of mediocre piloting  
> or  
> Somehow you thinking your coming out on top by arguing semantics under the guise of lack of comprehension

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that somehow my opinion rests upon a foundation of mediocre piloting. Some pretty hard core false equivalence there.

And the point of a logical argument isn’t to “come out on top.” It’s about a meeting of the minds. But when one party is unwilling to even have the decency to read and understand what is being presented, it’s a pointless cause and it really only goes to show the total lack of higher thinking. Which, to be honest, can be fun to exploit.

> [@Legion\_Masser](#):
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> Let’s not delay the inevitable any longer and just have you stop replying to my Gods thread as you’ve given us sooo much of your valueless time already

No. I don’t think so. I have every right to reply on this false idol thread as I want.

And I do think that my time is valuable. Maybe not to you, which makes it an “opinion.” But I don’t really believe it. You see, you can’t help yourself. You have to have that last word. The question is, do I?

And, just because you went all ad hominem on me, I’ll respond in kind, and as a bonus, I’ll give you that affirmation you so desperately need as well.

You, are the absolute best at combat capsuleering this cluster has ever seen. No mere person could hold a match to the shining achievements that you have accomplished and demonstrated on Zkill. Your skills burn more brightly than all of PIE’s Amarrian ships basking in the radiance of Throne World’s star.

You are truly a gift. Keep going forth, and show us mere plebs what a true capsuleer looks like.

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**Author:** ![Terry\_Tayra\_Thera](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terry_tayra_thera/32/402124_2.png) [@Terry\_Tayra\_Thera](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terry_Tayra_Thera)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/162 "2022-04-04T03:53:21Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> You, are the absolute best at combat capsuleering this cluster has ever seen. No mere person could hold a match to the shining achievements that you have accomplished and demonstrated on Zkill. Your skills burn more brightly than all of PIE’s Amarrian ships basking in the radiance of Throne World’s star.
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> You are truly a gift. Keep going forth, and show us mere plebs what a true capsuleer looks like.

See Legion , I told you he would eventually have no choice but to recognize! It appears we have made another fan

NOW STOP DERAILING MY THREAD or you will be removed for doing such ! Now with that completely unrelated fanboying of my Champion outta the way… back on topic

NAME YOUR PRICE MILKMAN  
Ill pay handsomely but you must provide actual proof

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/motive-the-actual-purpose-of-o-r-e-kidnapped-researcher-47/354065/163 "2022-04-04T03:56:51Z")

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> [@Terry\_Tayra\_Thera](#):
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> I told you he would eventually have no choice but to recognize!

Sure you did, sweetheart.

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