# Moving BS hulls though Ganker hotspots **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [February 9, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477 "2020-02-09T13:54:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/43 "2020-02-10T09:16:15Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > you want people to think it does not work. 🙄 No. I was just wrong. Anderson mentioned it in another thread as a non-AOE weapon, so I just automatically assumed it was specifically targeted since it isn’t AOE. Just a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/45 "2020-02-10T09:18:19Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I think it would probably be fair to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one That won’t feed his paranoia though. So we can just let him think I was being malicious rather than dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/46 "2020-02-10T09:19:22Z")
No, I don’t think so. You are a player that goes into detail before posting and yet with this you did not, I cannot believe that you being as smart as you are would not have checked the module first. In your past posting history you made a point of doing that and yet now you come up with a suggestion that the BS has to target people to work. That comment in terms of AOE was that it was not like smart bombs and it was based on target locks. Come on, you ain’t stupid and to be blunt that was a stupid thing to suggest. Being as smart as you are you wanted people to think it does not work. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/47 "2020-02-10T09:20:33Z")
I’ve got other things going on, so I couldn’t really care to check that much at the moment. Just made a mistake. Just human. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/48 "2020-02-10T09:21:05Z")
Everybody makes mistakes, but that was one well beneath your level which is why I suspect it was deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/49 "2020-02-10T09:30:18Z")
> [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > A spectrum breaker can definitely help. I hope lots of people do it instead of just using a wmd/cloak or mjd, means more kills for me when people rely on some meme module instead of just avoiding the situation in the first place lmao > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > In what situation? Drac does the usual pyfa warrior thing and comes up with an idea that is actually looking for a problem. He even acknowledges that he didn’t test it. The situation he imagines where this is useful doesn’t actually exist. Hes already been dunked on enough in uedama, now hes some disabled veteran sitting in a nursing home thinking up grand plans for other people to do before the nurse comes in and tells him its 6 o’clock and its time for bed > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Dyson is not even in AG, you lot have decided he is. Drysons just an idiot, hes not a complete loser like you and your ag friends, I assume he even has a job unlike 90% of the retards in uedama local who live of the government. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/51 "2020-02-10T09:51:39Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > I hope lots of people do it instead of just using a wmd/cloak or mjd, means more kills for me when people rely on some meme module instead of just avoiding the situation in the first place lmao Those doing the MWD / Cloak trick will evade you. This is just a quick module change that will seriously hamper you and cost you kills if low effort players get their heads out of their butt. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/52 "2020-02-10T09:53:40Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > I hope lots of people do it instead of just using a wmd/cloak or mjd, means more kills for me when people rely on some meme module instead of just avoiding the situation in the first place I’m going to go do some testing now, because the stats of the module only indicate that it reduces scan resolution by -25%, not that it breaks existing locks or anything. Seems on face value that this wouldn’t do much against destroyers attacking a BS, so hopefully a bit of testing gives me a better idea of whether this suggestion makes any real sense. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/53 "2020-02-10T09:54:05Z")
That is the penalty to the ship using it, oh my god…, you are trying too hard! @Lucas_Kell look at the above and tell me I am wrong now about his game. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/54 "2020-02-10T09:56:20Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is the penalty to the ship using it, oh my god Yeah I get that. But nothing in the stats of the module says much at all really. It’s a bit confusing, but I have learnt over the years to go test things myself rather than rely on others when suggestions like this are made. All good if it works. Seems like a good module if it does. I just wonder why this isn’t a widely known approach if it so good. Why no one before has had this idea. That alone makes me a bit suspicious. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > tell me I am wrong now about his game. No need for Lucas to tell you Drac. You are being a dickhead. Honestly, I’m not some ■■■■■■■ robot. I make mistakes just as everyone does. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/55 "2020-02-10T09:59:22Z")
I was in a group of people who tested it for fleets, the issue is that it was not seen as useful because of the impact on ones own logi. It really shines when a lot of ships are targetting the ship and for most solo players or small gang it was a bit of a penalty having lower scan res on stripping tackle. Also the cap use is nasty. But for moving around through massed cheap ship multi-boxing gankers it really does work well and the cap use is not an issue in the short engagement period. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > No need for Lucas to tell you Drac. You are being a dickhead. Honestly, I’m not some ■■■■■■■ robot. I make mistakes just as everyone does. Well I will accept that then, but you are someone who thinks thing through and checks and that you did not was a shock to me and well below your normal high standards. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/56 "2020-02-10T10:01:34Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was in a group of people who tested it for fleets Sure, but you’ve also written that if you warp on the same path as someone cloaked, you’ll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot they are on. We all know the history of your posts and so I don’t really put much weight in your posts to be open about it. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/57 "2020-02-10T10:07:15Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Sure, but you’ve also written that if you warp on the same path as someone cloaked, you’ll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot they are on. > > We all know the history of your posts and so I don’t really put much weight in your posts to be open about it. Well that was showing yourself to be a dickhead too by taking that out of context. I know what I was saying in terms of that, you just decided to make it sound like I was saying that you would end up on top of them. Which is the sort of game you are playing here, because in that thread I later explained that I used the same ship type as them and worked out the general location by D-scan. Then tested different possible warp points and that when he logged in he was on grid with me. So I was able to work out his exact spot and the next day I blew him up. There are reasons why I was being so general at the start. It was a lot of trial and error and classic long term hunting and not something that most players have done. So you play these misinformation games mate and you just proved it then. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/59 "2020-02-10T10:09:42Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > example I explained that I used the same ship type as them worked out the general idea by D-scan. Then tested different possible warp points and that when he logged in he was on grid with me. Here’s the thread. Your post is the first reply. It was a pretty crazy thing to write and you modified it later on. But yeah, I can be a dickhead as well as dumb. > **[Understanding Cloaking - EVE General Discussion - EVE Online Forums](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/481595/)** > > EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/60 "2020-02-10T10:10:58Z")
Yeah you are being a dickhead on a misquote of what I said and did, because I called you out on your deliberate misinformation. I take back saying I would give you the benefit of the doubt, because you went down this road it is totally deliberate your misinformation on this module. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/61 "2020-02-10T10:15:17Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Yeah you are being a dickhead on a misquote of what I said and did Your quote in that thread isn’t misquoted. It’s what you wrote and it’s bonkers: _Eve works in one second ticks, so if you have a ship with the same warp speed they will create safe spots in exactly the same place_ No misquote and yes this bit is deliberate, just to support what I wrote above about not putting much weight in what you write. People are better to test than just blindly follow. But yeah, I’m being a dickhead. Natural reaction at the moment to your dickhead behaviour above. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/62 "2020-02-10T10:16:58Z")
Haha, we have the plonker doing the mental health attack, another doing the misinformation you got something wrong in the past, when I did not. Just to say that this module does not work. Classic attack the person rather than the idea. Just to remind people: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > fit a damn Target Spectrum Breaker module in the mid slot when you move your bling ship through Uedama. Seriously, it will really feck them up. Stop being bad and do it. > > Also skill Target Breaker Amp up to at least level 3, 4 is better. > > EDIT: To forestall the trolls, this can be run with your safety green and it will seriously screw up the massed ganker Catalyst fleets. Also it does not require you to lock them, neither does it only apply -25% target res to them. That is the penalty. It removes their target lock, it works and it is especially effective against gankers who use cascade clients to gank. Use it or lose it! ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/63 "2020-02-10T10:18:57Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Classic attack the person rather than the idea. Nah. I am happy if it works. I’ll go test it. I didn’t attack you above. I was happy to admit I was just being dumb. You started that cycle all on your own. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/64 "2020-02-10T10:22:23Z")
Someone mentioned in AG that they had tested it on a Bump Macherial and I thought damn it is perfect for these massed Catalyst fleets going for bling BS, I went back and checked my notes and made my post. I then checked a couple of things to make sure nothing had changed from when I last looked at it. Obviously you don’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477/65 "2020-02-10T10:25:03Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Obviously you don’t like it. Haven’t tested. I’ll like it if it works, but I won’t know until I test. The forum is all good and stuff, but is full of misinformation as much as useful. People are best to assess for themselves, any suggestion that they might rely on for their safety. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/moving-bs-hulls-though-ganker-hotspots/218477.md?page=4)