# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/283 "2020-02-18T16:27:37Z")
I think you are not good enough to race CONCORD. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/284 "2020-02-18T16:28:22Z")
I think you are hilariously delusional if you think that “racing CONCORD” matters at all. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/285 "2020-02-18T16:28:54Z")
Did I say it mattered, I just said it was fun and that you were likely not able to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/286 "2020-02-18T16:30:07Z")
You’re right, I can’t do it, because I would never waste time on something so utterly pointless. I would be literally unable to make the attempt without quitting EVE, deleting my accounts, and committing suicide IRL. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/287 "2020-02-18T16:30:44Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > I would be literally unable to make the attempt without quitting EVE, deleting my accounts, Feel free, it would improve the game. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/288 "2020-02-18T16:32:29Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Feel free, it would improve the game Fortunately I will never attempt something so pathetic because, unlike you, I am not a deluded white knight. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/289 "2020-02-18T16:33:10Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Fortunately I will never attempt something so pathetic because, unlike you, I am not a deluded white knight. So why suggest it then? Ah attention seeking, got it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/290 "2020-02-18T16:36:27Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > So why suggest it then? Ah attention seeking, got it Are you honestly this stupid? You’re the one who said “I think you are not good enough to race CONCORD.” ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/291 "2020-02-18T16:39:11Z")
I was referring to this: > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > You’re right, I can’t do it, because I would never waste time on something so utterly pointless. I would be literally unable to make the attempt without quitting EVE, deleting my accounts, and committing suicide IRL. Attention seeking at its finest. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/292 "2020-02-18T16:40:37Z")
Ok, I give up. You’ve gone so far past the point of making sense that I don’t even know how to respond to your word salad anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/293 "2020-02-18T16:40:55Z")
Au revoir ---
**Author:** ![Yberta\_Molk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yberta_molk/32/273039_2.png) [@Yberta\_Molk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yberta_Molk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/294 "2020-02-18T16:48:08Z")
Ok here’s a second suggestion for you, even though avoiding the tornadoes is a perfectly ok strategy. Back in the day when I was ice mining we sometimes put a couple of guys in electronic warfare frigates, the ones that sensor dampen (Crucifiers?), any way we had some success against the cats but not so much against the Talos, lost a few frigates, no biggie. So if I absolutely had to get my freighter into Amarr past that lot then that would be something I would look at. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/295 "2020-02-18T16:48:16Z")
I think I missed this, I removed the salty bit. Nah I will add it at the end as it is funny: > [@Jerry\_Falcone](#): > > Take the fight to them, if you manage to destroy 7 or 8 out of the 14, thats better than whining here, or not doing anything at all. Absolutely useless, just general chest beating with no actual strategy and ideas. How would you destroy them. Turn up and stun them with your brilliance and stunning wit so they self-destruct at how awesome you are with your salt below: > [@Jerry\_Falcone](#): > > the fact that i’m agreeing with people who i normally wouldn’t, is surprising… if you truly wanted to be anti gank, then you would have at least given the loot back to the person who was ganked. > > it seems as though the anti ganking community is nothing more than vultures waiting to pick the dead carcass that the hyenas didn’t finish off. scoop in and steal loot, yea that is very EVE, but When you say you are better than gankers, but keep their ■■■■, not better… just sideways. So typical people who have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/296 "2020-02-18T16:51:27Z")
> [@Yberta\_Molk](#): > > Ok here’s a second suggestion for you, even though avoiding the tornadoes is a perfectly ok strategy. Back in the day when I was ice mining we sometimes put a couple of guys in electronic warfare frigates, the ones that sensor dampen (Crucifiers?), any way we had some success against the cats but not so much against the Talos, lost a few frigates, no biggie. > > So if I absolutely had to get my freighter into Amarr past that lot then that would be something I would look at. Crucifiers weapons disrupt, they are great ships to nab Thrashers on gates by the way. But I have to ask you a very important question, you can only use the sensor damp once they have gone criminal. I guess you have not thought this through at all have you? You need to get past first base here. And by the way there is no way that a Tornado can get a second shot off in Amarr. Of course Knowledgeminer knows all about that subject 😛 @knowledgeminer here we go, you can go all AG chat channel on this guy. I would advise running to the hills he is pretty brutal. ---
**Author:** ![Yberta\_Molk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yberta_molk/32/273039_2.png) [@Yberta\_Molk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yberta_Molk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/297 "2020-02-18T16:59:28Z")
Well actually we lost some frigates to concord, saved several exhumers at times, the balance sheet said “Success!”. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/298 "2020-02-18T17:02:51Z")
I salute you for this effort. But Tornados are one shot wonders, it is all in the Alpha strike unlike Catalysts. Your sensor damps or weapons disrupt would have no impact on them at all as they have already got their shot away. Don’t forget it is Amarr on the station. So far I have not seen anyone come up with the solution to my question. By the way I doubt he will go AG chat channel on you as he obviously wants to prove that I am lying about his aggression and will be on his best behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/299 "2020-02-18T17:03:15Z")
well, i got better things to do than to keep reading the drivel coming out of your mouth Drac. You think you are better than the gankers, but Merin, and several others have proven that you are less than gankers and less than CODE. tuck your tail between your legs, go deal with the ■■■■■■■ tornados yourself. and keep white knighting and think you are doing anything to help against gankers when you are slowly becoming one yourself. have a nice day. dickweed ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/300 "2020-02-18T17:05:16Z")
This is just so full of salt. You accused people of whining, and I put a question to you on an actual AG action, and yet you cannot think about anything to deal with that, except whine at me like this or come up with absurd generalities lacking any tactical knowledge: > [@Jerry\_Falcone](#): > > well, i got better things to do than to keep reading the drivel coming out of your mouth Drac. You think you are better than the gankers, but Merin, and several others have proven that you are less than gankers and less than CODE. tuck your tail between your legs, go deal with the ■■■■■■■ tornados yourself. and keep white knighting and think you are doing anything to help against gankers when you are slowly becoming one yourself. have a nice day. dickweed That obviously made you angry and whine, think about it and get better mate because you need to. PS I have always told people that it is perfectly fine to gank gankers, have a nice day! ---
**Author:** ![Yberta\_Molk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yberta_molk/32/273039_2.png) [@Yberta\_Molk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yberta_Molk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/301 "2020-02-18T17:20:36Z")
Yeah I’ve been on the wrong end of Tornadoes. Not saying it’s a full solution but if you had to haul through with no protection then it’s where I would start. But frankly, if I have to haul RIGHT NOW, then I’ve feked up somewhere in my scheduling, my fault not the gankers. You can always park up a jump or 2 away then shuttle the stuff through with mastadon or prowler, done that a few times. For high value small loads the Badger tanks really well, 80k EHP overheated iirc. ---
**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/302 "2020-02-18T17:23:50Z")
now im just 1 casual ganker but ive only ever failed 3 ganks because of antigankers, 2 times it was knowledgeminer 1 time it was eskati, take that as you will. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=15)