# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/387 "2020-02-19T06:57:59Z")
Yeah, I’m super salty you stole some random losers loot lmao You can’t do anything but accuse people of being mad as the only thing in a reply after you get exposed and showed to be a complete retard ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/388 "2020-02-19T07:09:57Z")
You are so mad mate. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/389 "2020-02-19T07:13:15Z")
> You are so mad mate. Another compelling argument… 🤡 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/390 "2020-02-19T07:15:14Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Another compelling argument… 🤡 A lot of people I know feel that this guy is a complete nutjob. His madness got his main accounts banned. EDIT: Added “I know” ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/391 "2020-02-19T07:16:53Z")
![dZfGXpZ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/9/a9dc5d6fe6b97f53793c0239858acef8ca7749af.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/392 "2020-02-19T07:17:35Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > His madness got his main accounts banned. If it is real, why his other accounts are not banned as well? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/393 "2020-02-19T07:17:59Z")
That is actually a rather impressive baby activity centre. Is that supposed to make me mad by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/394 "2020-02-19T07:18:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > A lot of people feel Yet another _argumentum ad populum_…very dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/395 "2020-02-19T07:18:34Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > If it is real, why his other accounts are not banned as well? CCP are not very good at this type of thing. Loyalanon by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/396 "2020-02-19T07:21:11Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Yet another _argumentum ad populum_ …very dishonest. Look, a you are lying/dishonest attack, so new and exciting, I can see you looking for GIF’s and dictionary definitions next. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/397 "2020-02-19T07:24:37Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Loyalanon by the way. There are some people who state this is not the case. > [@I WAS A CODE. SPACE BULLY](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-was-a-code-space-bully/181117/1467): > > I know Loyalanon and Australian Excellence are two different people. Given that there would be petitions to ban loyalanon’s new alts if they existed, this statement seems more truthful. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/398 "2020-02-19T07:36:26Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Given that there would be petitions to ban loyalanon’s new alts if they existed, this statement seems more truthful. I have exchanged with this person multiple times as Loyalanon and as Australian Excellence. He is the same person without any doubt. As the player was banned of course they would deny it. That being said as a player I am not in favour of life bans, I would not have life banned him nor GigX, and not even Erotica, so for that reason I would not petition him. However I will refer to his previous character when he slips into the same stupidity and hate which got him banned in the first place, it seems like a fitting reply to such stupid hate on his part. I am more interested in petitioning that war dec exploit, which I just did. I have asked CCP to declare it an exploit and temp ban anyone using it. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/399 "2020-02-19T07:46:02Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > which I just did. I have asked CCP to declare it an exploit and temp ban anyone using it. Or you could have just ask them to fix it… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/400 "2020-02-19T07:46:20Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Or you could just ask them to fix it… Goes without saying. The only sadness on my part is that I have been pulling down POS’s every time that PIRAT war decs us and finding it hilariously funny, I expect CCP will fix that too. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/401 "2020-02-19T07:48:14Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Goes without saying. If it’s fixed then there would be nobody using it so, no bans…but you asked for bans. Hummmm 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/402 "2020-02-19T07:49:26Z")
I think it is difficult to fix, but CCP move slowly on such fixes. Experienced long term players know this. EDIT: Removed specific details of this exploit because CCP do not want it openly detailed. It is currently being discussed on the TIS Discord and CCP are removing threads where people menton it as it is a bug and exploit. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/403 "2020-02-19T07:50:37Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have exchanged with this person multiple times as Loyalanon and as Australian Excellence. He is the same person without any doubt. Sure… I have seen them both team up and gank together and talk to each other when loyal was actually still around on an alt. But whatever, what do we know. But luckily ye olde Drac is once again here to tell us how it really is in some all encompassing story that leaves out no unimportant detail. So gather around and listen to the marvelous truths not even insiders and close friends where aware of. (Be polite and sit down, the grand kids already ran away. They think he is crazy). ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/404 "2020-02-19T07:51:24Z")
LOL… First of all I don’t have grandchildren, and I don’t expect to be around when they arrive, that is pretty much certain. So your picture you just painted is rather incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/405 "2020-02-19T08:05:25Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Experienced long term players Argument from authority…lol… > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I think it is difficult to fix They could just filp the 1 to a 0 for making that object a wardec-enable’er. One can assume that all deploy-ables share a common table/field in the DB then they also would have the same switch…POCOs or POS should have that switched to 0… I’ve taken advantage of POSs and WarDec mechanics before and still shake my head that it’s in the game(?)…cheap shenanigans when compared to an Upwell… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/406 "2020-02-19T08:07:44Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Argument from authority…lol… Observation on multiple bugs. I hope they can do it soon, because it is never good to leave such things open like that. I am not going to quote you because CCP will delete it. The use of a POS to be able to ally is something I really like and I will miss it when it goes. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=20)