# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/43 "2020-02-13T14:28:07Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> I’m still an anti-ganker, not a Code agent

Of course you are still ag 🙂. One step after the other. Go dunk those dirty miners 😃

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/44 "2020-02-13T17:11:46Z")

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This is a great thread.

+50 points to Ovendoor

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**Author:** ![FloppieTheBanjoClown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/floppiethebanjoclown/32/227425_2.png) [@FloppieTheBanjoClown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FloppieTheBanjoClown)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/45 "2020-02-13T22:15:56Z")

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You want highsec to be alive and vibrant, lobby for features that reward spreading out and taking risks. Changes to the game have allowed then entire population to condense into a few dozen systems and be entirely self sufficient (gee, sounds like null). Eve sucks without conflict.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/46 "2020-02-14T02:38:05Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> I’m mining atm

Seems like you were purging your corp…700 members gone…wow…it’s almost like you are running a scam or something…

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/47 "2020-02-14T03:23:04Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Astevon

lmao if there is a bigger pathetic loser in eve I dunno who it is (maybe his ex ag mod friend)

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> many of the committed AG players

You mean the other spergs who worship those 2 losers 🤣

> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Seems like you were purging your corp…700 members gone…wow…it’s almost like you are running a scam or something…

Sounds like thomas the embezler who stole all the carebear donations, didnt reinburse anyone and ran away with the isk.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/48 "2020-02-14T08:15:10Z")

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@Knowledgeminer Do these other people, who no one ever heard of, hate you, because you’re the only one with a consistent track record of both activity and actual success in what he does?

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/49 "2020-02-14T13:26:54Z")

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Not sure I understand your question. If you’re referring to the AGs that don’t like me, no, it has nothing to do with how good or bad I am at what I do, but rather with me telling them when they do things wrong, make wrong assumptions, etc. Some people simply cannot stand that.

Moreover, some people are not even able to understand that in the first place, and interpret that criticism as me wanting to get attention, or wanting to discourage them, or whatever, because there is simply no other possible explanation for them.

The problem is aggravated by how common it used to be there to say “good job” to anyone that was merely trying to oppose the gankers in any way, no matter how ineffective or irrelevant it was.

Also I’m very hostile and rude against stupidity and especially against unwillingness to learn, but **not** against ignorance itself, which is how many there interpret it.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/50 "2020-02-16T14:07:07Z")

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Knowledgeminer and his alts have now been banned from the AG channels

The reasons are as follows:

1. You posted tears on the forums, minerbumping style.
2. You started targeting a group of thousands of pilots with bumps and ganks due to having a beef with what seems to be just one guy among them.
3. You keep pointing out the unwillingness to learn in so many different people, over years, but there has been no hint of a true willingness to learn displayed by yourself.

I have been asked to announce this decision publicly on the forums as I am used to dealing with the forum warfare and it was agreed that this thread was the best place to do it. Currently the door is still open for you to discuss this ban further with the leadership of AG.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/51 "2020-02-16T14:31:13Z")

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Seems to me 3 is clearly demonstrated by his willingness to take part in new activities.

Certainly I recall my alts watching KM get called all kinds of things in AG channel for actually explaining things and why they work. Most of those calling him things just didnt like being called out on some inaccurate BS or hatespew they just talked.

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/52 "2020-02-16T14:32:11Z")

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He’s doing the most important thing you can do in a video game.

He’s having fun.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/53 "2020-02-16T14:33:32Z")

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What is this AG and how does one become “leadership”? Sounds like fun.

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/54 "2020-02-16T14:33:58Z")

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That’ll be AntiGanking, and I think they have a channel for it?

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/55 "2020-02-16T14:56:04Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Currently the door is still open for you to discuss this ban further with the leadership of AG.

Please feel free to close the door, seal the lock and throw the key. I will continue shooting and harassing gankers because I love to do that, but I don’t want to be part of that “community” anymore.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/56 "2020-02-16T15:04:42Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> Please feel free to close the door, seal the lock and throw the key. I will continue shooting and harassing gankers because I love to do that, but I don’t want to be part of that “community” anymore.

Fair enough, good luck in shooting and harassing (in game) actual gankers.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/57 "2020-02-16T16:01:20Z")

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■■■■■■■ losers, all of you.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/58 "2020-02-16T16:01:43Z")

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You seem a bit salty, calm down gankbear!

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/59 "2020-02-16T16:04:41Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You seem a bit salty

Of course draccy, if you say so. Friendly reminder: You have forgotten to put me on ignore, please solve that.

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/60 "2020-02-16T16:07:19Z")

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Thanks man, I appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/61 "2020-02-16T16:08:46Z")

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You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/62 "2020-02-16T20:35:44Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You keep pointing out the unwillingness to learn in so many different people, over years, but there has been no hint of a true willingness to learn displayed by yourself.

A more ironic statement has never been said before

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I have been asked to announce this decision publicly on the forums as I am used to dealing with the forum warfare and it was agreed that this thread was the best place to do it. Currently the door is still open for you to discuss this ban further with the leadership of AG.

lmao

leadership of a handful of total losers who pretty much only sit in uedama harrasing one player, failing to stop him

who would want to rejoin a channel that actually fosters unwillingness to learn and is ‘run’ by complete idiots 🤣

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