# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/649 "2020-02-25T16:47:18Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Sure, except you categorise anyone who disagrees with you as that. Which basically means anyone that doesn’t agree with your exact views of how EVE should be is “farmer trash”. Nonsense. I just normally don’t bother posting anything when reasonable PvE players express their opinions. Don’t confuse a choice to allocate more posting time to my strongest opinions instead of adding redundant “yes, what 99999 people here already said” spam with contempt for every PvE player. > Any playstyle you can engage in is automatically supported. Sure. But that isn’t the question here, he is going beyond playing EVE in a currently-supported manner and demanding even more buffs to AFK solo farming. And saying “sandbox” over and over again does not mean that CCP needs to give him what he wants. > No, I’ve just read what he’s written. {citation needed} Perhaps you could post an example of his genuine requests for more PvP options that are not just thinly-veiled demands for easier PvE farming (like his “I want to invade nullsec” justification for demanding highsec titans)? > That reason is that the method by which is war ineligible corp was thrown into a war is an exploit. Last I checked it was standard practice to petition exploits. So what if he thinks it’s an exploit (it wasn’t, according to CCP)? He still had the opportunity to fight back and defend his corp in PvP, and instead he quit EVE and left his corp members to die until CCP removed the PvP threat. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/650 "2020-02-25T17:02:28Z")
Lucas Kell actually proved that both he and this fellow are actually not whiney forum carbears at all in a previous post and has no need to incessantly keep re-posting that iron-clad proof over and over for the likes of you. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/651 "2020-02-25T17:47:15Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > Is there proof of that you can offer? It might get Dracvlad to lay off on that front, if only for a little while. Lol, I will not dig trough logs just to get some “prove” he will just ignore. I have better things to do with my time. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/652 "2020-02-25T18:05:25Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > This presumes they’re all operated by the same person. For all we know there’s an actual family of EvE players operating those characters. The live video made it clear it is one person. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/654 "2020-02-25T20:39:25Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > He’s not. Like most players he just has opinions on what he feels would make the game better. Code players just like to pretend that they get to decide what opinions are valid. Yup, kinda funny to be honest, they always flip 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/655 "2020-02-25T20:39:52Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > How is killing your miners not PvP? Are they players? > > How is it not a 'good fight? You have everything stacked in your favor, tanky mining ships protected by CONCORD. > > Why can’t you just admit that you’ve led thousands of new players to their doom? Calm down PvP trash lol ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/656 "2020-02-25T20:41:09Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Lucas Kell actually proved that both he and this fellow are actually not whiney forum carbears at all in a previous post and has no need to incessantly keep re-posting that iron-clad proof over and over for the likes of you. Aye, even if you talk to them with civility and show them statistics they still go crazy, best to have fun with them. ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/657 "2020-02-25T20:44:40Z")
Ooooo what about that mail where you demanded your corp to mass petition CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/658 "2020-02-25T20:45:06Z")
What about it, you still crying over it? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/659 "2020-02-25T20:49:17Z")
> [@Bernie\_Nator](#): > > Ooooo what about that mail where you demanded your corp to mass petition CCP? The end justifies the means. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/660 "2020-02-25T20:50:14Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Calm down PvP trash lol 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/661 "2020-02-25T20:50:41Z")
> 🤭 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/662 "2020-02-25T20:52:32Z")
Notice here how the miner immediately responded by posting his own yellow face. He doesn’t understand why or what the purpose of this is, but he seeks to mimic the behavior in the hopes that he will pass this test of his social status. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/663 "2020-02-25T20:52:51Z")
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/664 "2020-02-25T20:53:09Z")
People are laughing at you. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/665 "2020-02-25T20:53:46Z")
I’m famous, ty for promoting me on [minerbumping.com](http://minerbumping.com) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/666 "2020-02-25T20:55:31Z")
That’s one of the common miner ‘defenses’, founded in self-deception. Once we begin to publicly shame the miner, he then pretends that he is a famous miner and is benefiting from the advertisements. He deludes himself into thinking that other miners might read the website and empathize with him, and he utterly fails to realize that his alliance is already dead. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/667 "2020-02-25T20:57:28Z")
> That’s one of the common miner ‘defenses’, founded in self-deception. Once we begin to publicly shame the miner, he then pretends that he is a famous miner and is benefiting from the advertisements. He deludes himself into thinking that other miners might read the website and empathize with him, and he utterly fails to realize that his alliance is already dead. Lol wut, alliance is dead LOL that was funny ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/668 "2020-02-25T20:59:41Z")
I remember the goofus before you. @Jonathan_Bergmann, are you the same guy? Same idiotic delusion, that’s for sure. Maybe you guys can work together and build a super fail empire! ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/669 "2020-02-25T21:00:13Z")
> I remember the goofus before you. @Jonathan_Bergmann, are you the same guy? Same idiotic delusion, that’s for sure. > > Maybe you guys can work together and build a super fail empire! Your dumb, that’s not me! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=30) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=32)