# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/840 "2020-02-28T04:59:23Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Wants highsec to be fun, get’s angry Thinks fun is having BSs but not using them for anything… ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/841 "2020-02-28T05:01:55Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Thinks fun is having BSs but not using them for anything… Just wait until you can mine veldspar with titans, that is going to be very fun ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/842 "2020-02-28T05:02:45Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Just wait until you can mine veldspar with titans, that is going to be very fun You mean “when Sabus Narian decides to go play on the test server”? Because that day is not happening in the real game. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/843 "2020-02-28T05:03:24Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Just wait until you can mine veldspar with titans, that is going to be very fun And you wonder why you are the laughingstock of Eve… ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/844 "2020-02-28T05:04:01Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > You mean “when Sabus Narian decides to go play on the test server”? Because that day is not happening in the real game. Judging by the crazy panic of every bittervet on these forums, the day seems quite close……… ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/845 "2020-02-28T05:04:59Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Judging by the crazy panic of every bittervet on these forums, the day seems quite close……… Do not confuse contempt for entitled farmer trash with panic. Nobody is worried that highsec capitals will actually happen, because unlike you CCP understands things like risk vs. reward balance. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/846 "2020-02-28T05:05:01Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > And you wonder why you are the laughingstock of Eve… Haha you can only dream, too bad your becoming a minority in this game, remember nice players are greater than toxic players, more nice players too. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/847 "2020-02-28T05:05:26Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Do not confuse contempt for entitled farmer trash with panic. Nobody is worried that highsec capitals will actually happen, because unlike you CCP understands things like risk vs. reward balance. Aye, they will do a good job when they release them don’t worry. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/848 "2020-02-28T05:07:09Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Haha you can only dream, too bad your becoming a minority in this game, remember nice players are greater than toxic players, more nice players too. “Nice” players fail at EVE because they lack the competitive drive to succeed. Remember, EVE is a simulation of a hyper-capitalist dystopia, not a cooperative farming game. And the only reason anything you do has value is because of this competition. The sooner you understand this the better. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/849 "2020-02-28T05:07:52Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > too bad your becoming a minority in this game More made-up fantasy…if that were true, you wouldn’t be cowering in HS now would you. Even with hundreds of players, you can’t even run fleets… I guess toxic means competent then…and in your world, nice means gullible noobs that you can farm… ---
**Author:** ![vlad\_suxuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vlad_suxuria/32/487874_2.png) [@vlad\_suxuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vlad_suxuria)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/850 "2020-02-28T05:13:23Z")
Mah i really dont undestand all this hate for SICO guys… they do their game and push things to their side like everyone else. Wanna hurt them? go Auderne-Alsottobier (and everywere they hide) and carpet bomb everything. The bittervet way ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/851 "2020-02-28T05:17:54Z")
> [@vlad\_suxuria](#): > > Mah i really dont undestand all this hate for SICO guys It’s not the Corp. it’s Sabus who constantly brags, lies and posts terrible suggestions designed to benefit himself that will severely hurt EVE. And rather than listening to logic rages, and posts 2 year old playground taunts as replies. Oh and runs a scam Corp taking advantage of newbies who don’t know better then abandons them. ---
**Author:** ![vlad\_suxuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vlad_suxuria/32/487874_2.png) [@vlad\_suxuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vlad_suxuria)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/852 "2020-02-28T05:21:50Z")
Well i dont see how his suggestion would hurt eve, at least, if is it intention, hes failing bad. Es. conduit nerf, HS moon mining nerf etc etc ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/853 "2020-02-28T05:29:44Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > all your doing is causing people to stop mining and do missions and other PVE Interesting… I was under the impression that the miners there don’t really care much about me buzzing around… At least that’s what they keep trying to make me believe… Anyway, that didn’t work too well for this one, did it? > **[Astero | Urso Wrenn | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/81921816/)** > > Urso Wrenn (People of the Saiya) lost their Astero in Audaerne (Sinq Laison) Total Value: 109,608,910.17 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/854 "2020-02-28T05:30:51Z")
> [@vlad\_suxuria](#): > > Well i dont see how his suggestion would hurt eve Then you must not be paying attention to his posting. He incessantly demands more rewards for highsec farming and the removal of all risk, especially PvP risk. This devalues competence and success against adversity by giving everyone easy participation trophies, and floods the market with excess production that drives down prices (and therefore income) for the more skilled players who don’t need his farming buffs. And his entire approach to the game teaches new players to be helpless perma-victims, that the only proper response to PvP is to hide in station and spam demands for EVE to be easier. And so, when these players eventually do encounter adversity, they are completely unprepared to face it and likely quit. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/855 "2020-02-28T05:32:40Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > Anyway, that didn’t work too well for this one, did it? Jesus that’s tragicomic. Sabus, why aren’t you doing a better job of teaching your newbies that flying a ship like this in highsec is a profoundly stupid idea? And that doing relic/data sites in highsec at all is a complete waste of time? ---
**Author:** ![vlad\_suxuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vlad_suxuria/32/487874_2.png) [@vlad\_suxuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vlad_suxuria)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/856 "2020-02-28T05:35:42Z")
No ive paid attention, u misundestood me, i ment his ssuggestion would not hurt eve because will never be applied, since those goes against the game spirit and balance. As a proof the last HS balances ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/857 "2020-02-28T05:37:00Z")
Oh, gotcha. Then hopefully you are correct, and that CCP/PA don’t get desperate to milk the cash cow of farmer whales for the last few months of EVE’s existence. ---
**Author:** ![vlad\_suxuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vlad_suxuria/32/487874_2.png) [@vlad\_suxuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vlad_suxuria)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/858 "2020-02-28T05:44:58Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > It’s not the Corp. it’s Sabus I miss old good days when words by one would have caused diplomatic incidents ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/859 "2020-02-28T05:46:18Z")
If he was eligible for a wardec, they would. In fact they did, it just used an exploit to wardec him so got shut down. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=38) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=40)