# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![vlad\_suxuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vlad_suxuria/32/487874_2.png) [@vlad\_suxuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vlad_suxuria)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/860 "2020-02-28T05:58:04Z")
Well, in my very own opinion , for an entity that large being war elegible or not means nothing, or at least means they cannot be occasionally hunted by random wardeccer, but everyone and their dogs know were they are, what they do and what would cause them damage. Im just very curious if they would engage fight if their mining shell corps structures gets pressure… or would they just open another thread here 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/861 "2020-02-28T07:10:31Z")
Ah screw it… I am going to join you in their HQ system. Will reach you there. I did pop some gankers there as well that was pulling concord but then again. If it flashes… kill it right? ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/862 "2020-02-28T07:56:02Z")
> [@Karulean\_Valkyrie](#): > > This post is basically @Knowledgeminer riding on the bandwagon for fame by taking advantage of another person popularity. Also who the heck think it fun to fight a war that has no strategic objective. This perspicacious guy gets every time what this is all about and everybody else was missing. I have no idea what all the babbling in the rest of his post was about, but it sure was something that shed even more light on what’s going on here… ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/863 "2020-02-28T08:09:16Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > many newbies are staying in the game thanks to ICANP Would they stay in the game without ICANP? Because there is no credit for your corp to maintain players that would be in the game regardless of corp. Actually, a better question: what does ICANP do for their members? And I don’t mean Sabus’s wallet, I mean new players. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/864 "2020-02-28T08:12:16Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > I don’t know why so many gallente men dress up as exotic dancers to get near me, it just happens. So, now your corp exploits newbies in THAT way? ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/865 "2020-02-28T08:16:00Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > What, alone? You’re gonna need help with that. No. What did I say that made you think I’m alone on this? I would do it alone (within my possibilities) if I had to, but I’m not. I have a channel that other players have joined (and more keep coming) to help and have lots of fun. These SICO are great content. > [@Commander\_Kane](#): > > Ah screw it… I am going to join you in their HQ system. Will reach you there. Hehe, cool. Join channel “SICO Hunting” in game, I’ve granted access to you already. You’ll be able to see when I’m on and active there. 😉 > [@Commander\_Kane](#): > > I did pop some gankers there as well that was pulling concord but then again. If it flashes… kill it right? Right… Unless it’s my guys that you shoot… Then it wouldn’t be right… 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/866 "2020-02-28T09:21:34Z")
> [@vlad\_suxuria](#): > > Mah i really dont undestand all this hate for SICO guys… > [@vlad\_suxuria](#): > > his ssuggestion would not hurt eve because will never be applied, since those goes against the game spirit and balance. I can’t speak for others, but if you’re referring to me, then you completely misunderstood. I don’t do this out of hate, I do it precisely because I support the Highsec Lobby, their proposals, the forum spamming, the newbie harvesting, and all of that. Precisely because there is no way CCP would ever implement those lovely changes they’re asking for is why I’m trying to help by increasing the risk of doing all kinds of activities in high sec to anyone that directly or indirectly supports them, so CCP realises the changes they’re asking for and are entitled to are fully justified and need to be addressed… ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_Hartjen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dante_hartjen/32/189552_2.png) [@Dante\_Hartjen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dante_Hartjen)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/867 "2020-02-28T10:03:06Z")
So much salt. These ICANP guys sound great! ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/868 "2020-02-28T10:07:05Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Actually, a better question: what does ICANP do for their members? And I don’t mean Sabus’s wallet, I mean new players. Sabus will tell you all about Corp programs. The problem is none of them actually help newbies with the real EVE. only with the Sabus/Naari version of EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/869 "2020-02-28T13:26:48Z")
So is this Naari Nanian Naari or whomever it was that gave me a free station? I wonder if it had a previous owner then if so ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/870 "2020-02-28T16:46:45Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Would they stay in the game without ICANP? Considering many ICANP players told me that the only reason they stayed in the game was because of this great corp, I’d say no. Perhaps some would, but not all. > Actually, a better question: what does ICANP do for their members? And I don’t mean Sabus’s wallet, I mean new players. Finally asking good questions. We give newbies a place where all of their questions can get answers, unlike the toxic people that tend to hang in NPC corp chat, we want to get them out of there as soon as possible. No rules, you only get kicked from inactivity or for abusing/hurting another corp member, so none of the dumb rules that nullsec tends to have. Advice on making money, a low tax to ensure that is the case, buyback program to sell excess things in the hangar if you want, and plenty of fleets going out of all kinds, pvp, pve, mining, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/871 "2020-02-28T16:49:32Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > “Nice” players fail at EVE because they lack the competitive drive to succeed. Remember, EVE is a simulation of a hyper-capitalist dystopia, not a cooperative farming game. And the only reason anything you do has value is because of this competition. The sooner you understand this the better. Lol that is not the case, look at all the great changes that are causing mass bittervet rages; Demographics, and the fact that changing all the toxic things in this game makes more money for the devs, means your age is long gone. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/872 "2020-02-28T16:52:09Z")
> [@Dante\_Hartjen](#): > > So much salt. These ICANP guys sound great! 🙂 Proud revitalizers of the EVE Forums, guardian of the newbie, and sentinels of highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/873 "2020-02-28T17:07:56Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Lol that is not the case, look at all the great changes that are causing mass bittervet rages; Demographics, and the fact that changing all the toxic things in this game makes more money for the devs, means your age is long gone. Well you’re certainly an idiot. Making the changes you want may give a temporary boost in subscription money from the farmer trash whales, but it’s a long term death sentence because you want to remove all of the things that drive sustained interest in the game. Once a new player gets their easy mode participation trophy there’s no sense of accomplishment and nothing left to do, so all the whales quit and move on to the next game. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/874 "2020-02-28T17:43:29Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > all your doing You are or you’re. Learn English, idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/875 "2020-02-28T18:09:10Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > You are or you’re. Learn English, idiot. You’re complaining is funny ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/876 "2020-02-28T18:10:13Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Well you’re certainly an idiot. Making the changes you want may give a temporary boost in subscription money from the farmer trash whales, but it’s a long term death sentence because you want to remove all of the things that drive sustained interest in the game. Once a new player gets their easy mode participation trophy there’s no sense of accomplishment and nothing left to do, so all the whales quit and move on to the next game. Nope, bittervets quit the game or only pay subs, in many cases not even that. Newbies are more profitable and better for the game, that’s a fact you gotta deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/877 "2020-02-28T18:28:17Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Newbies are more profitable and better for the game, that’s a fact you gotta deal with. Well you have certainly demonstrated that you don’t understand EVE or MMO market trends in general. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/878 "2020-02-28T18:52:34Z")
Your desired changes will increase newbies quitting. They are purely selfish based on what you want to be able to do and ignore demonstrated behaviour by players in MMOs. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/879 "2020-02-28T19:00:04Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Well you have certainly demonstrated that you don’t understand EVE or MMO market trends in general. I am a master at market trends. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=39) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=41)