# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/920 "2020-02-29T01:45:11Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > So where it makes sense CCP have generally already made sure newbies actually have decent income. Remember newbies are humans, if you want botting and RMT to not be a thing, you need to give incentive for people to play the game using human labor instead of mechanic labor, best way to do that is make the content fun and profitable. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/921 "2020-02-29T01:46:30Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > Instead of arguing that content in highsec should be made just as lucrative as low, null, and wormhole space, he should be arguing that content in highsec should be made _more interesting and fun._ Make it both. Add sinks to counter the increased wealth generated, and make the content fun. If you have fun content that pays well, then you have a great game. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/922 "2020-02-29T02:14:58Z")
It already is profitable for newbies. Fun is totally separate from profit though and your comments have nothing to do with fun ever. It’s all about gimme gimme gimme. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/923 "2020-02-29T02:39:31Z")
> Fun is totally separate from profit though and your comments have nothing to do with fun ever. It’s all about gimme gimme gimme. Nope that’s fake news. > It already is profitable for newbies. Because 2 million an hour is profitable LOL ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/924 "2020-02-29T02:41:22Z")
If the newbie is earning 2 mil an hour you aren’t supporting and training them right ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/925 "2020-02-29T02:42:20Z")
> If the newbie is earning 2 mil an hour you aren’t supporting and training them right Your the one arguing for that, of course it’s bad. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/926 "2020-02-29T03:20:43Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Your the one arguing for that, of course it’s bad. You are making even less sense than you usually do now. What exactly are you thinking I’m arguing for? And why? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/927 "2020-02-29T04:14:02Z")
> You are making even less sense than you usually do now. What exactly are you thinking I’m arguing for? And why? For this > It already is profitable for newbies. So your ok with newbies making 2m an hour? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/928 "2020-02-29T04:35:12Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > If the newbie is earning 2 mil an hour you aren’t supporting and training them right Reading is great. If a newbie is only making 2 mil an hour it is YOUR fault for not training them right. Or for scamming them on cut rate buybacks I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/929 "2020-02-29T04:38:00Z")
i can get a newbie making much much more than that per hour. If i really wanted to, i could probably move in your corp, and take all your people into my own corp, and run it so much smoother and give them, and gankers, content. what is your tax rate? do you have a SRP in place? ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/930 "2020-02-29T05:36:34Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Those ship scanners and covert lock are my brother’s I swear that the only reason those modules are on my Procurers is because I had nothing else. Honest! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/931 "2020-02-29T08:58:54Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > look at it from the side and you’ll see it resembles a giant flying axehead. Thats a funny way to spell hairdryer. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/932 "2020-02-29T09:34:23Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Because making 5m an hour means newbies leave or start botting Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/933 "2020-02-29T10:50:34Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > of course it’s bad Yeah, that’s bad you aren’t supporting and training them right. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/934 "2020-03-01T00:23:35Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Yeah, that’s bad you aren’t supporting and training them right. My newbies make much more than 2m an hour, you people however want them quitting I see, why else are you so hostile. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/935 "2020-03-01T00:28:46Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > So your ok with newbies making 2m an hour? > [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > My newbies make much more than 2m an hour There clearly is no problem then by your own words since newbies aren’t earning 2 mil an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/936 "2020-03-01T00:29:57Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > There clearly is no problem then by your own words since newbies aren’t earning 2 mil an hour. My newbies make more than 2m an hour, you lot trying to nerf highsec and punish new players is a different story. Good thing you are becoming a minority and losing power. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/937 "2020-03-01T00:32:36Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > you lot trying to nerf highsec and punish new players is a different story. Good thing you are becoming a minority and losing power You clearly don’t even read people’s posts but instead invent things in your own head to argue against, since you clearly have no idea what I do and what I advocate for. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/938 "2020-03-01T00:39:31Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > My newbies make more than 2m an hour Okay, so where you found newbies making 2m per hour? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/939 "2020-03-01T02:03:19Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > You clearly don’t even read people’s posts but instead invent things in your own head to argue against, since you clearly have no idea what I do and what I advocate for. Prove you care about highsec and newbies then [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=44)