# My contribution to the "Highsec Lobby" initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219 "2020-02-12T07:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1026 "2020-03-02T00:27:11Z")
> [@Dante\_Hartjen](#): > > The sad thing is that you’re so desperate to deride him. Do you have so little going on in your life that crying about how someone else plays eve is all you’ve got? naw we just like messing with brainlets ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_Hartjen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dante_hartjen/32/189552_2.png) [@Dante\_Hartjen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dante_Hartjen)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1027 "2020-03-02T00:27:37Z")
What means brainlet? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1028 "2020-03-02T00:28:40Z")
> [@Dante\_Hartjen](#): > > Why do you care even if he doesn’t stop? Why is it so important to you? Because his desired changes would be an utter disaster for the game, and it must be made absolutely clear that he is an irrelevant minority that CCP should not listen to. ---
**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1029 "2020-03-02T00:29:06Z")
> [@Dante\_Hartjen](#): > > What means brainlet? brainlet is a tard who doesnt use his main to post ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1030 "2020-03-02T00:29:21Z")
Because ignoring evil is how evil triumphs. Sabus here is a perfect example. Abusing newbies with a tax scam which is subtle enough to make them think it’s a good deal, abandoning them to a war, and failing to teach them about EVE. Calling that out educates others about him, though the willfully ignorant remain so. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1031 "2020-03-02T00:29:23Z")
> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#): > > naw we just like messing with brainlets Oh, you’re 4chan trash. This certainly explains a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1032 "2020-03-02T00:29:25Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Because his desired changes would be an utter disaster for the game, and it must be made absolutely clear that he is an irrelevant minority that CCP should not listen to. Absolute minority? Also I love how you gotta make it ‘absolutely clear’ when you don’t post on your main, makes me think your not serious. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1033 "2020-03-02T00:30:31Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Because ignoring evil is how evil triumphs. I’m evil now ok. > Sabus here is a perfect example. Abusing newbies with a tax scam which is subtle enough to make them think it’s a good deal, abandoning them to a war, and failing to teach them about EVE. All fake news. > Calling that out educates others about him, though the willfully ignorant remain so. Not really, remember you can’t call out something that doesn’t exist lol. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1034 "2020-03-02T00:30:50Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Also I love how you gotta make it ‘absolutely clear’ when you don’t post on your main, makes me think your not serious. > **[Ad hominem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)** > > Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a personal attack as a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribut... Arguments are true or false regardless of which character is posting them. Please stop posting basic fallacies. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_Hartjen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dante_hartjen/32/189552_2.png) [@Dante\_Hartjen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dante_Hartjen)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1035 "2020-03-02T00:31:46Z")
Is it made clear by your actions here? I don’t think ccp will take you seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1036 "2020-03-02T00:31:56Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Arguments are true or false regardless of which character is posting them. Please stop posting basic fallacies. Sounds like your very salty, that you can’t post on your main. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_Hartjen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dante_hartjen/32/189552_2.png) [@Dante\_Hartjen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dante_Hartjen)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1037 "2020-03-02T00:32:39Z")
what tax scam? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1038 "2020-03-02T00:33:03Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Sounds like your very salty, that you can’t post on your main. Like I said, you have nothing to say but “U MAD” and “POST WITH UR MAIN” over and over again, because you know that every time you get into a discussion with any substance you get demolished by people who understand way more about EVE than you. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1039 "2020-03-02T00:33:14Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Because ignoring evil is how evil triumphs. > Sabus here is a perfect example. Abusing newbies with a tax scam which is subtle enough to make them think it’s a good deal, abandoning them to a war, and failing to teach them about EVE. > Calling that out educates others about him, though the willfully ignorant remain so. > **[Paladin | Nevyn Auscent | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/34673912/)** > > Nevyn Auscent (Broke Sauce) lost their Paladin in Nakugard (Metropolis) Total Value: 1,504,022,482.86 ISK Also tell me how does one fail at pve so much that you die in a marauder to rats? ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_Hartjen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dante_hartjen/32/189552_2.png) [@Dante\_Hartjen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dante_Hartjen)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1040 "2020-03-02T00:33:34Z")
Merin why did you post wikipedia ad hominem link? You do that more… ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1041 "2020-03-02T00:33:54Z")
> **[Nevyn Auscent | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/91786526/)** > > Nevyn Auscent: 10 ships destroyed and 11 ships lost. Last kill in September of 2016, sounds like this bittervet left the game @Nevyn_Auscent ---
**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1042 "2020-03-02T00:33:58Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Arguments are true or false regardless of which character is posting them. Please stop posting basic fallacies. thing is though, you hide your main behind the values you talk about on the alt ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1043 "2020-03-02T00:34:22Z")
If you can’t work out why a 4% tax on a highsec only Corp that doesn’t wardec or PvP in a meaningful way relative to Corp size is scam… ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1044 "2020-03-02T00:34:45Z")
> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#): > > thing is though, you hide your main behind the values you talk about on the alt Makes me wonder, if what he says is true why does he have to hide behind an alt? Funny how what I say needs no alt hiding. ---
**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219/1045 "2020-03-02T00:34:59Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Like I said, you have nothing to say but “U MAD” and “POST WITH UR MAIN” over and over again, because you know that every time you get into a discussion with any substance you get demolished by people who understand way more about EVE than you. we only use these replies because your only reply is “why you reply with this” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=47) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-contribution-to-the-highsec-lobby-initiative/219219.md?page=49)