# My Experience: An Open Letter to CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve\ **Created:** [August 11, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432 "2021-08-11T14:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/84 "2021-08-14T10:29:19Z")
![014c7971-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/a/9/6a9fded769be26e3e64bcfd409f32225fce170f0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/85 "2021-08-14T10:40:21Z")
And now I need popcorn. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/86 "2021-08-14T10:45:58Z")
Id sell you some for PLEX, but as PLEX is free, its not worth anything 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/87 "2021-08-14T10:47:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Id just like it to not be boring and worth doing for the sake if it rather than ever-increading isk piles. 🤷‍♂️ What PVE can eve possibly have that isn’t reduced to a calculation? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/88 "2021-08-14T11:04:36Z")
I dunno, other games manage to have fun systems, never knew what CCPs problem was. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/89 "2021-08-14T11:10:05Z")
PVE in EVE is designed to be not fun, so the player don’t notice PVP is _also not fun_ at least 50% of the time. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/90 "2021-08-14T11:23:53Z")
Limit breaks? Line of sight? Headshots? A variety of attacks with interesting choices between splash damage, damage over time? Corners and walls? ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/91 "2021-08-14T11:38:35Z")
Yes, all that. …and people spam the same ability over and over. ---
**Author:** ![Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astelon_bheskagor/32/360222_2.png) [@Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astelon_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/92 "2021-08-14T12:10:05Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > but most others would prefer it if you shut the hell up and stopped interrupting their grind. “This one last Haven !” That’s the reply I had to deal for years , when asking people on comms to do a roam. Eventually after 1-2 hours they were ready for it , just when I was about to get ready for bedtime. ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/93 "2021-08-14T12:21:24Z")
> [@Meditril](#): > > Indeed you are missing something: In the long run, also the CCP employees are human and they need real-world money to survive. I fail to see how that’s my problem. > [@Meditril](#): > > So even though it is advertised as “_free to play_” the idea behind this is a sample for you so that you can easily peek into the game and then, if you like it, you will transfer to a paying customer. Then they shouldn’t advertise it as “free to play”. They should advertise it as “free to try”. Or are you suggesting that CCP engages in false advertisment? ---
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/94 "2021-08-14T12:43:47Z")
> [@Raptor\_Kane](#): > > I fail to see how that’s my problem. The past has proven already several times, that this kind of attitude always leads to mass exploiting and destruction… ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/95 "2021-08-14T12:52:57Z")
> [@Meditril](#): > > The past has proven already several times, that this kind of attitude always leads to mass exploiting and destruction… Maybe maybe not. But frankly, I don’t give a damn. But when a game is advertised as “free to play” I expect it to be free to play and I register and play for free. I don’t see the problem with that. Also, eploitation and destruction is the hallmark of the human race. I don’t see that changing anytime soon so I don’t see why my attitude has anything to do with it. Even if I adopted your attitude there would still be exploitation and destruction so why should I pay Omega for a free-to-play game? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/96 "2021-08-14T13:25:27Z")
All of that would be great, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Maxim\_Sharpe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maxim_sharpe/32/283083_2.png) [@Maxim\_Sharpe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maxim_Sharpe)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/97 "2021-08-14T13:52:42Z")
> [@Thayden\_Reid\_Nordic](#): > > Simply improve Eve’s PvE. They can still feel more rewarding and dynamic That’s really just meaningless babble like “we should just end world hunger”, it sounds cool and as if you know what you’re talking about but it really is just saying nothing at all. They are nondefined hopes and dreams without any sort of action, effort or value. Make a factual suggestion, propose workable solutions. The issue if of course that the second you do this 10 people will love it and another 10 people will tell you it sucks, you have no idea what you’re talking about and should just uninstall. Still: come with solutions and ideas, not babble. And make it solutions that allow for repeatable content, which is what PVE is in EVE. Not just “here’s a cool story line I personally care about that you are really ever going to do once or twice”. ---
**Author:** ![Ardarute\_Jea\_Severasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ardarute_jea_severasse/32/284366_2.png) [@Ardarute\_Jea\_Severasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ardarute_Jea_Severasse)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/98 "2021-08-14T16:13:33Z")
bruh im soory u hav go , pve ok it is ganker who not ok kill game ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/99 "2021-08-14T22:07:55Z")
> [@Raptor\_Kane](#): > > why should I pay for a free-to-play game? For the extra stuff. Of course, it’s up to you to decide if the extra stuff is worth you money. ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/100 "2021-08-14T22:21:32Z")
> [@Pan\_Dora1](#): > > For the extra stuff. Of course, it’s up to you to decide if the extra stuff is worth you money. As far as I understand it now, I don’t need the extra stuff and if I do, it won’t be for many months or even years to come. Some of that extra stuff takes months to train into and cost WAY TO MUCH for me to feel comfortable spending my money on and lose it in the few seconds it takes to get ganked. I’m not ready to spend money on this game. Don’t get me wrong, I do like playing the game, I’m just not comfortable spending money when I barely understand how to play it. The mechanics, meta, industry, resource gathering, PvP, anchoring, fleet… It’s going to take a lot of time before I’m ready to commit to this game. I figure maybe 2 years if not more. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/101 "2021-08-14T23:13:58Z")
I think with that attitude you will be doing just fine should you decide “to commit”. You already figured by yourself something that we repeat like a mantra there: _Never risk what you cannot afford to lose._ If i can make one suggestion: take your time with the game, but try to find the people you want to play with ASAP. More often than not, is the people that you play with that make or break your experience in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/102 "2021-08-14T23:23:28Z")
> [@Pan\_Dora1](#): > > More often than not, is the people that you play with that make or break your experience in EVE. Then I should also take my time with that. Maybe befriend a few players before choosing which corporation I want to be a part of. Not only that but I don’t want to join and be dead weight. I want to be somewhat competent and hold my own before getting into a corporation so that I can help and be useful. I don’t like to mooch or have my hand held. It’s a question of pride and integrity. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-experience-an-open-letter-to-ccp/323432/103 "2021-08-15T06:40:26Z")
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