# My Opinions after 1 month playing **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 7, 2022, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373 "2022-07-07T07:33:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/123 "2022-07-16T17:26:44Z")
Any 2 week old newbie who puts in effort to learn can earn quite a lot of money just fine, in high sec. Anyone who wants to mine and thinks ahead can start with a single alpha account and within a year run an orca with 4 barges easy. Want to do trading as a newbie? Sure it’ll start off slow but if you’re good at it you’ll do fine. It’s not about SP, it’s not about character age, it’s not about starting as alpha. It’s about knowledge, planning and effort. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/124 "2022-07-16T21:50:56Z")
> [@Ully\_Loom](#): > > Perfectly optimized, which still requires some initial investments (time + money), with the good choice of faction ship and ORE equipment that go well, an ALPHA miner can earn more than 4.5 million in 1 hour! ore equipment is hundreds of millions of isk, even for the ones that go on a venture. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/125 "2022-07-16T21:53:27Z")
Sorry, what Faction ship is going to help an Alpha mine well? Sure you have to invest time, but my only question was do you think 5 years to go from 10m to a couple hundred bill in resources and ships is too long? ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/126 "2022-07-16T21:59:40Z")
i dont know what faction ship he means. 5 years to build wealth in a game is long by any standard, but with eve being more oriented for the long game i dont think its unreasonable. i know on my part, there is a bit of frustration because i want to do all the things everybody else is already doing. I just dont have the money to put into plex to buy skill injectors and ships and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/127 "2022-07-16T22:17:11Z")
Im saying you dont even have to. EvE is a game of scale. Sure, wars are fought on a big scale an have thousands of participants and so use big ships. But solo players dont need ships like that. Wnat a Carrier? Try a Dragoon or an Vexor, much more affordable and does basically the same thing on a much smaller scale. Like wise, theres no faction ship an Alpha can use to mine. Dont mine to make isk, mine if you need raw mats. Because either a Venture or a tricked out Arbitrator or Battleship is the only alternative and thats neither fun nor quick. ---
**Author:** ![Skyla\_Amarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skyla_amarr/32/392813_2.png) [@Skyla\_Amarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skyla_Amarr)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/128 "2022-07-17T02:30:09Z")
Imagine if the OP wrote this today after reading reddit. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/129 "2022-07-17T03:51:38Z")
I fell into that rabbit hole earlier today and my god. I am so glad I have not gone out to nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Skyla\_Amarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skyla_amarr/32/392813_2.png) [@Skyla\_Amarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skyla_Amarr)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/130 "2022-07-17T04:02:18Z")
You might have missed all the actual screenshots of stuff. Mods deleted it. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/131 "2022-07-17T05:08:14Z")
they’ve been reposted on several threads. Like, I get that people are outraged about stuff that happened 15 years ago, but people do change and grow. I didn’t see anything that suggested he or anyone else was doing those disgusting things recently. I don’t hop on bandwagons of trying to punish people for things they did years ago because people do grow up. What more concerns me is the people bragging about calling up irl jobs and trying to get people fired, or calling social services and claiming people are doing disgusting things to their kids, and many other disgusting things. Where do they get off being such trashy people? They lost any moral highground they thought they had for sure. Cancel culture is cancer culture. Isnt eve supposed to chew those type up and spit them out? ---
**Author:** ![Skyla\_Amarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skyla_amarr/32/392813_2.png) [@Skyla\_Amarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skyla_Amarr)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/132 "2022-07-17T05:09:39Z")
It’s all trash and really bad for the game. I’m surprised msm hasn’t gotten hold of the entire thing. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/133 "2022-07-17T05:12:41Z")
give it time. gaming magazines will probably touch the subject long before anyone considered msm ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/134 "2022-07-17T12:13:43Z")
Given where they all came from, it was safe to assume that has been going on since the start. Pervs never stop being pervs ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/135 "2022-07-17T13:38:48Z")
The player log on numbers have dropped a fair bit with all this crap, probibly people too depressed to try move all their stuff out of goon space. ---
**Author:** ![Paliphany\_Bradbury](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paliphany_bradbury/32/441256_2.png) [@Paliphany\_Bradbury](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paliphany_Bradbury)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/136 "2022-08-04T21:57:06Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > The VAST majority of actual newbies don’t install this for the first time to go “lets start a second job”, only already invested players do that. Truth - And I’m the exception to that rule that proves it. I poked around EVE and instantly said this is what I’d like for my retirement job to keep my mind active because it appeals to the obsessive analyst and strategist sides of me. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/137 "2022-08-05T23:37:55Z")
This thread has gone on longer than the month it took to come up with the topic of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/138 "2022-08-06T06:40:16Z")
Happy 2 months btw. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/139 "2022-08-07T02:37:04Z")
I’m close to making another one. Learned a lot this last month. ---
**Author:** ![Gaming\_God](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming_god/32/328502_2.png) [@Gaming\_God](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming_God)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/140 "2022-08-15T11:28:26Z")
Every month you can buy a new game on steam from that 20€ you pay every month. EVE Has become a dirty money grab game. I wanted to see wat was going one in EVE after that i quit 5 years ago. A boring money grab game full with gankers and players that like to chat in corp chat rooms. I wil come back to see how its going in EVE in about 5 Years LOL ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/141 "2022-08-15T12:32:14Z")
> [@Gaming\_God](#): > > I wil come back to see how its going in EVE in about 5 Years LOL OK, great. See you then. I’ll be here skilling up, gathering resources and last but not least having fun. EVE Online is a slow paced game, not for everyone. Just like Hotel California you can check out any time you like but you can never leave. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373/142 "2022-08-15T13:22:38Z")
> [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > The GM that answered that ticket asked what I was even talking about and did nothing. No one is entitled to those skillpoints. It was something you could ask and hope the GM has a good day and showers you with skillpoints for no reason. That aside, maybe they didn’t get around to your ticket as they are understaffed. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > So I spent nearly 40 million isk, from selling plex, to buy the basic skills and start learning. I could have stopped reading there, nothing stopped you from making a new account and using a link from another player to give you an advantage. Once you got going you could have reactivated the old account and got it involved. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > a full venture is less than half a million isk Again, your attitude will make you hate this game. You can mine with others and ask them to use their porpoise/orca cargohold to dump things in, they can boost you. None of that requires Omega, it requires you to find creative solutions. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > On top of that, you quickly learn that multiple accounts are necessary if you ever want to compete in any section of the market. Again, wrong, although those multiaccount people can rely on their specialist characters they probably do so to keep their supply chain simple and only sell at highest margins. So you can even buy off them, move goods a few jumps away (over the border) as people in other constellations don’t see orders past the borders you can make a good profit there. Again, this will require you to take time to watch and analyse the markets. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Missions are easy and the payout is better than mining. Depends on how, but I guess if you want to not interact with anyone this statement would be true. Missions are very fun. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Nobody warned me and there is shockingly little information about that Yes, I can agree that LOGO on the mission objective, indicating the faction of the mission might be not enough but I am certain you now learn from this post and decline once every x hours. Per agent, you aren’t stuck, you can go find another one to do other missions from nearby to bridge the time. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Exploration is a crapshoot. It’s an acquired taste. But why don’t you start out in highsec? I understand that your presence -albeit free to play- should be enough for CCP to bow for you and become your personal assistants and do your bidding. This is one of the things that annoys me, people go for min/maxing profits then get angry that there is some risk connected to rewards. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > **Doing just public incursion fleets, it is very easy to plex […] a public group called EVE Rookies […]** Nice!!! I have been here for about 18 years and always been omega, didn’t know that. Thanks, you actually helped me (and others who might be reading this tread) . See, You were at quite the advantage compared to a bittervet. \<3 > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > PVP for a new player is a waste of time and isk. Yes, like in real life you should train before you fight special forces. Or not, you could get lucky sometimes. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Alpha players are always at a distinct disadvantage You should do some more incursion fleets. 😃 Alpha is to try out the game. Not the game on EASY MODE. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Amazingly though, when you ask for their recommended fit, it is complete junk. This made me chuckle, it’s so true!! \<3 > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > A lot of the advice from rookie help Yes, it’s bad. But it’s volunteers. Some with good intentions, some with bad. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > it is fairly difficult to build any level of wealth for a new player > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > a lot of people will flame others that complain about or suggest changes to any aspect of the game Yes, just like every other game forum. Mostly some people found a way to make easy ISK but with the proposed change (even if it’s indirect) their ISK fountain would dry up. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > There are entire groups dedicated to pushing new players out of eve and they brag about it openly. In many cases, the same people that flame new players on these forums or on reddit will admit that they’d rather see eve dead and gone than have new players. Yes, but most of those do not even play the game so it’s difficult for CCP to do anything about it. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > one of the things that drew me to this game is how so many people say it takes almost no resources to run. That’s a lie. No , the game does run on onboard video cards. But it runs slow. Even on better PC’s it’s funny how slow it runs. Bad programming I guess, don’t expect it to become better as they have to keep (almost) all the old code every update. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > The first couple of times it will pop right back up and attempt to reload the thousands of players and chat. Yes, anything above 1000 generally causes severe issues with the game. Your RAM is not enough to play this game. It states 4GB or more but you have less. I hope someone can donate some RAM to you as with 8 you’ll crash a lot less. If you have a good SSD this will also increase the stability of the game. And last but not least do a full download of the files as this also causes issues on slower systems. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > new players arent going to know what they want to specialize into Yes. That’s part of the game. You will slowly build up. If you aren’t going to enjoy that, just focus on one thing in game you really like. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Knowing the intricate details of how a car is built does not make it more fuel efficient when you drive it That’s actually wrong, I can drive my car in a way it uses more or less fuel. On the skill tree thing, in teh years this has evolved. Before that there were skill to learn… ‘learning skills’ ( [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/learning-skills-are-going-away-1](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/learning-skills-are-going-away-1) ) 🙂 And you trained up a few minimal skills to mine or mission, then did the learning skills while you made ISK. You see, you needed to plan in those days, that was quite the thing. People told me to do them to 4 at least and 5 if I was smart. As in the long run it would advance my skills much. Sometimes there is something you don’t like to do in a game but do it anyways. 😉 > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > So then why does my character have to spend weeks and months to operate basic ship functions? Imagine you talk to someone who had to work much harder to get there… I feel like i’m an old man and you are like my grandson and I try to tell you how hard everything was “when I was your age” and you are like “It’s way too hard now”. But I guess times change. > [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Standardized controls exist in modern time so why don’t they in the future? Because those 4 empires are different with connections. When I was a young man, as a Caldari Pilot I could **not learn or use** any of the other shiptypes/ammo/guns. But give people a hand… and one day someone posts a “Can I have the arm too?” Also, you skipped through the story where it says you are in a pod and the ship controls are WIRED into you. So I don’t think you drive your car/plane/whatever while having wires go into your brain… Anyway, thanks for an awesome review. Hope to see you in game somewhere, sometime. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/my-opinions-after-1-month-playing/369373.md?page=8)