# Nebulae and stars are STILL too bright

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nebulae-and-stars-are-still-too-bright/275201>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Tags:** null-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [October 22, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nebulae-and-stars-are-still-too-bright/275201 "2020-10-22T02:06:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nebulae-and-stars-are-still-too-bright/275201/1 "2020-10-22T02:06:48Z")

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As seen several times in this video [https://youtu.be/M9MJTxfPq6M](https://youtu.be/M9MJTxfPq6M) the pilot is forced to move his camera away from nebulae in order to be able to manually pilot, this is in contrast to older video’s such as [https://youtu.be/A9dbcWoCjL8](https://youtu.be/A9dbcWoCjL8) where the pilot can easily manually pilot without unpleasant and unnecessarily bright nebulae interfering

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nebulae-and-stars-are-still-too-bright/275201/2 "2020-10-22T02:10:43Z")

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All the cool kids manually pilot in UI only mode. You should try it.

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**Author:** ![SeriousPun\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seriouspun_k/32/238132_2.png) [@SeriousPun\_K](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeriousPun_K)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nebulae-and-stars-are-still-too-bright/275201/3 "2020-10-31T11:22:08Z")

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Yeah, well, some ppl don’t want to play that way.

Which is precisely what CCP and the hardcore Nullsec players who care about in the CSM fail to recognize: Carebears and casuals are not likely to react in a positive way to people telling them “you have to play like me, or else you can \*\*\*\* off”.

(“You have to pilot in manual mode” / “Let’s force everyone into PvP because people who don’t enjoy that should not play PvE” / “let’s focus all our resources on improving the game for nullsec alliances” – that has led to a situation where the tutorials are still hard to get, there hasn’t been a new PvE mission added over the last ten years, and design decisions such as adding the Triglavians or this year’s stupid Halloween event show a huge middle finger to highsec players with no interest in PvP. This arrogance - as displayed by you, and to some extent CCP and that CSM thing - annoys many players who aren’t into the content you’re pushing.)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nebulae-and-stars-are-still-too-bright/275201/4 "2021-01-29T11:22:11Z")

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