# Negative/toxic culture towards new players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 2, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377 "2024-09-02T20:50:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/183 "2024-09-03T23:26:25Z")
Now you’ve wounded his ego… …mr peni is too scared to undock. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/184 "2024-09-03T23:31:16Z")
Still desperately trying to be internet spaceship relevant, I see. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/185 "2024-09-03T23:32:01Z")
I get one relevance point every time you respond to me. Princess Aiko 👸🏻 ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/186 "2024-09-03T23:38:19Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > This thread is reaching levels of autism that shouldn’t be possible… ![IMG_1676](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/7/4/6741472931870c0a548c710f3dd4df45ca4fe2f8.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/187 "2024-09-03T23:49:46Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > You don’t mine. Me not mining… ![me_not_mining](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/f/c/efccef609547af5dcc2786393ce788fd925ac9ed.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/188 "2024-09-03T23:59:22Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Me not mining Yup. Definitely not mining. Take a screenie after you undock. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/189 "2024-09-04T00:06:28Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > That’s the design of the game. I see. So you think highsec is ‘designed’ so that people can ‘chill’ and watch Netflix AFK rather than actually play the game they’ve logged into. No wonder such deluded people find it ‘toxic’ when they come across people actually playing the game as really intended. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/1/0e1df1685812c1e56f4170d0ce0eaac8be3a20cc.jpeg "Original EVE Online Trailer (2003)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwpgXFA3UQk) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/190 "2024-09-04T00:23:33Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Take a screenie after you undock. Just for you…as you _exemplify_ ‘toxic’… Poor ‘defenceless’ miner…mining in Uedama right under the nose of the gankers 🙂 ![Mining In Uedama](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/4/2849fe116ac031e68e3c7b8ec82ad69d7cb3f755.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/191 "2024-09-04T00:27:32Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > > [@Lunavera\_Poxicon](#): > > > > This game leads all of them in toxic nature. > > In the general discussion forum for sure. This thread is a fine example. > > Hiring some moderators might fix that. > > Mr Epeen 🕶 lol, so true and straight to the point… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/192 "2024-09-04T00:28:10Z")
Where are all the griefers? I thought it was _impossible_ to mine with safety? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/193 "2024-09-04T00:37:22Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Poor ‘defenceless’ miner…mining in Uedama right under the nose of the gankers Still not seeing any mining. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/194 "2024-09-04T00:46:44Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Where are all the griefers? > > I thought it was _impossible_ to mine with safety? The difference is I’m not AFK watching Netflix…‘chilling’. I’m extra vigilant. And Kusion’s station is handy to run to if any trouble does show up. Plus I’d simply type ‘gf’ if you did gank me…rather than launch into a tirade of how unfair the entire universe is and what nasty people PvP-ers are. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/195 "2024-09-04T02:15:28Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > This “trick” is actually trying to put the blame on people who are not bots for their losses in the “high security” part of the game. so if i lose my raven missioning, its not my fault? cool… i’ll remember that next time and come here and whine… if you lose a ship to an NPC or a player, it is your fault… every ship loss i’ve had, was my own doing. ---
**Author:** ![Alyx\_Meyers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alyx_meyers/32/440532_2.png) [@Alyx\_Meyers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alyx_Meyers)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/196 "2024-09-04T10:36:43Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > The thing is, you can have 100 people helping, one single toxic person will make the game worse. > I’m not saying there are no nice people in the game. I’m saying, there are toxic people, and the effect of those people is enough to ruin the efforts of the nice people. > Try to do your work nice, but if your colleague decides to set the office on fire, that’s a bigger issue. I feel that this is a matter of perspective, and I cannot impose my perspective on you as much as I cannot agree with your perspective on this point. I think we could agree to disagree on that, if that’s all right with you. ---
**Author:** ![Daekarus\_Helium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daekarus_helium/32/423680_2.png) [@Daekarus\_Helium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daekarus_Helium)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/197 "2024-09-04T11:19:36Z")
I get what you’re saying, and I had a similar mindset in the past. But I really suggest you to watch this interview in order to understand why EvE is EvE and has to be this way: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/b/6fb9340e256ed448594ae9c303f09b2f474d6e4c.jpeg "Galactic Ripple Effects in EVE Online with Hilmar Veigar Pétursson | The AIAS Game Maker's Notebook") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BdhiUVv618) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/198 "2024-09-04T14:38:21Z")
Any post starting with the word “so” can be ignored with no loss of thread continuity. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/199 "2024-09-04T15:32:47Z")
Hahahaha! That’s just like any post ending with “peen 🕶” ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/200 "2024-09-04T16:59:50Z")
I was going to say, “I know you can do better than that”. But let’s face it, you can’t. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/201 "2024-09-04T17:09:01Z")
And no thread continuity was lost. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/negative-toxic-culture-towards-new-players/460377/202 "2024-09-04T17:34:43Z")
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