# Nerf Ganking Megathread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 7, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004 "2021-03-07T02:12:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Blood\_Ivy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blood_ivy/32/309294_2.png) [@Blood\_Ivy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blood_Ivy)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2965 "2022-07-17T18:02:26Z")

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whatever you imagine. getting rewarded from the government for helping to fight crime sounds be reasonable in my ears. getting paid for commiting crime by some criminals you are not even related to is… questionable at best. but of course, anyone is free to disagree.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2966 "2022-07-17T18:09:29Z")

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Getting paid to distract the police while the crime empires commit a bank heist is completely reasonable for example.

The plot of Die Hard 3 comes to mind and not just the base setting but also that the entire operation was financed by some third party country or countries to influence gold prices or something, the point being if you put some thought in it you can come up with plenty of reasonable scenarios why the crime empires would pay bounty.

If for nothing else just to weaken the empires and as such to further their own power against them or to limit the empires this way to have less resources against the pirates.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2967 "2022-07-17T18:11:37Z")

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> [@Blood\_Ivy](#):
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> Nobody talked about “full” realism. Don’t be a troll. But quite some realism.

The game is set 20,000 years in the future. Today’s standards won’t apply in 20,000 years from now any more than the standards of behavior in the dark ages apply to us now, so it’s impossible to have a concept of “some realism” and any choice, including those made already be CCP are just as likely as any others.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2968 "2022-07-17T18:46:32Z")

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Yes you get lp from killing Helheim npc’s but if they kill you they force you to join their corp.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2969 "2022-07-17T18:49:53Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> Helheim

I assume you meant: Doomheim ([https://evewho.com/corporation/1000001](https://evewho.com/corporation/1000001) aka the biomass corp).

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2970 "2022-07-17T19:10:18Z")

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Yes that is it thanks 😃 Imagine how freaky it would be having some super dangerous npc around that can actually end your immortality.

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2971 "2022-07-17T19:52:00Z")

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> [@Blood\_Ivy](#):
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> If there is any NPC organization that mainly focuses on the hunting and killing of capsuleers, I see no problem with them granting some LP or other rewards to anyone who kills a capsuleer ship within their zone of influence. Including gankers of course.

Pirate factions. LP directly proportional to the victim’s bad standing with the various pirate corps. Why not.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2972 "2022-07-17T20:05:08Z")

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> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#):
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> I will introduce a new perspective: insurances are granted by the Secure Commerce Commission from the CONCORD Assembly.
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> If something is destroyed and that something is insured, then bounty hunters would be free to destroy a certain amount of ISK from that pilot. Until that amount is not reached you could kill that person over and over.

We can already do this and a bully pod is still worth 10k isk in value to zkill

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> You expect full realism in a space submarines game?

Among Us on Steam comes to mind

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2973 "2022-07-17T21:25:46Z")

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> [@Blood\_Ivy](#):
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> I don’t exactly see why “antigankers” shouldn’t be rewarded

It’s a player driven market “sandbox” - and antigankers are free to collect taxes from the miners they protect. That’s what I do.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2974 "2022-07-17T21:51:33Z")

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No you should get underhandedness and skullduggery points to spend at your local pirate outfiters.

Pirate Queer would be a title you have to earn, i am sure we could think of names for the other lvls within ganking

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**Author:** ![Raylan\_Yutani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raylan_yutani/32/312133_2.png) [@Raylan\_Yutani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raylan_Yutani)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2975 "2022-07-17T21:56:17Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Pirate Queer

Wait, wut?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2976 "2022-07-17T22:38:58Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I’m with you on the buffing , if AG needs a buff it can not touch the ganking play style at all, something like loyalty points for getting a high percentage of a kill for example.  
> That way gankers gank for what they want and we get something and not effecting each others play

A ‘buff to AG’ like that would be a buff to ganking as it makes ganking more cost-efficient.

Such a change would allow a ganker to make back a percentage of the lost ship’s value back by ‘helping CONCORD’ on another alt.

The challenge of suggesting changes that directly reward PvP actions like ‘LP if you kill gankers’ is that those actions are much more easily done if the two characters work together for financial benefit.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2977 "2022-07-17T23:14:59Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Pirate Queer

Excuse me?

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2978 "2022-07-18T03:34:13Z")

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Definitely not a mistake not only is r and n decently far but its using different fingers on different hands xD Unless Githany is a special ofc and uses the same finger.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2979 "2022-07-18T03:54:39Z")

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Many people I thought type with one hand as the mug of coffee is in the other or do they allow their coffee to go cold and type with two hands.

Either way I took it as being pirate swag (merch etc)

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2980 "2022-07-18T04:07:10Z")

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I mean coffee is pretty important, can’t deni this. To sacrifice coffee for typing speed hmm…

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2981 "2022-07-18T04:24:20Z")

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It i stime that is important not the coffee… see what i diud there

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2982 "2022-07-18T04:42:32Z")

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But Coffee is also time, diudn’t see no.

Edit: O I see it now 😃 Wake up, wake up and smell the ashes.

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**Author:** ![Apo\_Bong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_bong/32/512751_2.png) [@Apo\_Bong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Bong)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2983 "2022-07-18T06:06:29Z")

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I appreciate an idea too, that doesn’t try to throw ganking under the bus. But I think you didn’t think this through. What would prevent me, the ganker, from using a 2nd DPS only to get on my own kills? Since I know when, where and with which DPS I will aggress, being the one to earn the reward seems trivial.

Now I can see myself being able to gank much more stuff since my own ship cost will be offset by collecting LP rewards and I will be able to gank stuff I wouldn’t be otherwise. In the end this would just add another system on the already very complicated criminal mechanics.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/2984 "2022-07-18T06:21:11Z")

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oooo get those sweet LP rewards!

free isk with every gank!

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