# New Bank of New Eden

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688>\
**Category:** Market Discussions\
**Created:** [October 10, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688 "2017-10-10T17:26:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bank\_McBanks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bank_mcbanks/32/43036_2.png) [@Bank\_McBanks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bank_McBanks)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/150 "2017-12-03T13:50:32Z")

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> [@Xylem\_Viliana](#):
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> Thing is while agent owns those shares, he/she/it/they are technically still shareholders that are having dividends withheld, this could have been handled differently and better.
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> What if agent gives those shares to another person? that person also becomes a share holder, would dividends be paid again then?

Techically, they could. However, I do track all the shares held by the shareholders, and the dividends would not be paid. I have repaid Ag3nt Jita’s 2 bought shares (I sent them 20M to cover the price of the shares) but they have NOT returned the shares. Essentially, its is I who have been SCAMMED by Ag3nt Jita.

However, I realise I am just feeding the troll by replying here.

They refused to give back the shares, that are essentially useless now.

They will claim to “own” 10 shares, although as explained above, only 2 were invested and 8 were freely given by the bank at that time. All 10 shares are VOID.

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**Author:** ![Bank\_McBanks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bank_mcbanks/32/43036_2.png) [@Bank\_McBanks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bank_McBanks)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/151 "2017-12-03T13:52:14Z")

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> [@Jehle](#):
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> Agent doesn’t own any shares. They were forcefully dissolved.

Exactly, because they gave me no option - they would not return the shares.

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/152 "2017-12-03T14:06:48Z")

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You have no option. I havent accepted your buyback so i really dont know what you are talking about. Even if you bought back two of my shares, i still own 8 which i got for making a website for you, donating a billion to you in assets and for giving advice to you. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Bank\_McBanks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bank_mcbanks/32/43036_2.png) [@Bank\_McBanks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bank_McBanks)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/153 "2017-12-03T15:53:26Z")

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> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#):
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> donating a billion to you in assets

Ok, I’ll bite.

And you were saying you don’t like liars? Where is this billion donation?

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/154 "2017-12-03T15:54:26Z")

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In 3 or 4 different donations, you dont remember our first deal when i gave you 350m worth of items? 🤔

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**Author:** ![Bank\_McBanks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bank_mcbanks/32/43036_2.png) [@Bank\_McBanks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bank_McBanks)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/155 "2017-12-03T16:01:17Z")

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> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#):
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> 350m

350M I remember, 1B I do not. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Bank\_McBanks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bank_mcbanks/32/43036_2.png) [@Bank\_McBanks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bank_McBanks)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/156 "2017-12-03T16:07:37Z")

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> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#):
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> making a website

You mean that scam one you ripped? The badly designed one? 🤔

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/157 "2017-12-03T16:11:39Z")

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You are hilarious right now but please keep doing it im laughing so hard 🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/158 "2017-12-03T17:30:31Z")

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Yeah agent accepted the isk for the shares but has not returned them. Scam indeed.

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/159 "2017-12-03T17:47:47Z")

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I rejected the offer. If i want to sell my shares, i set the price and not the bank. I havent accepted anything, it was a donation from the bank because he loves me so much i guess.

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**Author:** ![Zahara\_Cody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zahara_cody/32/470812_2.png) [@Zahara\_Cody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zahara_Cody)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/160 "2017-12-03T18:17:18Z")

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Returning the favor, eh?

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**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/161 "2017-12-04T23:25:25Z")

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If you hard truly rejected the offer you would have returned the sent isk. You didn’t though, you accepted the isk and therefor the offer. Scam.

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**Author:** ![Obsidian\_Blacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obsidian_blacke/32/28671_2.png) [@Obsidian\_Blacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obsidian_Blacke)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/162 "2017-12-05T01:39:25Z")

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Even if your space lawyering were correct, which it isn’t, Ag3nt\_Jita would still be the scammee as he had 10 shares, but was only paid for two.

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**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/163 "2017-12-05T04:13:27Z")

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Negative. Agent did not purchase the other 8.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/164 "2017-12-05T06:14:47Z")

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_sigh_ The world we live in.

@OP, I stopped following this thread and hadn’t read it for a month. My prediction was scam or incompetence. I’m still not entirely sure which. I guess it doesn’t matter which. Failure is failure.

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/165 "2017-12-05T08:12:34Z")

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Reading is hard isnt it? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Obsidian\_Blacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obsidian_blacke/32/28671_2.png) [@Obsidian\_Blacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obsidian_Blacke)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/166 "2017-12-05T22:11:50Z")

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> [@Jehle](#):
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> purchase the other 8.

Whether Ag3nt paid for them or not (which he did through labour) isn’t relevant, as the shares were awarded to him in any event. He owns them, the bank is refusing to pay dividends to him, and the bank has not made any offers to repurchase those shares.

Sounds like he’s been scammed to me.

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**Author:** ![Bank\_McBanks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bank_mcbanks/32/43036_2.png) [@Bank\_McBanks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bank_McBanks)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/167 "2017-12-05T22:39:46Z")

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> [@Obsidian\_Blacke](#):
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> He owns them, the bank is refusing to pay dividends to him, and the bank has not made any offers to repurchase those shares.

Trololol. Because I totally want to send more isk to him to not receive the shares back ? Shall I paint a sign on me saying “I Give out Free ISK!”

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Obsidian\_Blacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obsidian_blacke/32/28671_2.png) [@Obsidian\_Blacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obsidian_Blacke)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/168 "2017-12-05T22:43:55Z")

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I said the bank hasn’t made any offers. Making someone an offer doesn’t mean unconditionally sending them ISK. You would negotiate a repurchase of the shares at a price both you and him can agree upon. If you can’t agree upon a price, then you should pay him dividends based on the ten shares that he owns.

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-bank-of-new-eden/30688/169 "2017-12-05T23:01:03Z")

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I said you donated 20m to me **for a reason**. Not knowing what a share is or how business works is not my problem, its yours and your investor’s problem.

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