# New Eden Industry Strike! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 3, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636 "2020-09-03T11:18:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/285 "2020-09-06T21:13:09Z")
I see we’re at the point where you realize you have nothing constructive to offer and, rather than admit defeat, you just spam inane nonsense until everyone gets tired of dealing with you. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/286 "2020-09-06T22:29:05Z")
You are not offering anything constructive. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/287 "2020-09-06T22:35:06Z")
How about Construction Industry Strike and Trash all ship blueprints! ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/288 "2020-09-06T22:41:56Z")
You tell us to trash the BPOs that cost like 2B each ? For what ? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/289 "2020-09-06T22:43:05Z")
IDK that was my constructive input for the day. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/290 "2020-09-06T22:43:46Z")
that’s a fail. IT would be more visible if people biomassed their character. We let you lead the way. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/291 "2020-09-06T22:45:33Z")
I’m currently inside Null and trying to sneak out my planet production materials… shh can’t be a leader. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/292 "2020-09-06T22:53:07Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > How about Construction Industry Strike and Trash all ship blueprints! 👍 👍 THAT IS A _ **GREAT** _ IDEA! That would really show one was making a real protest! Video it! Effective, shows you are serious! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/293 "2020-09-06T23:22:30Z")
> [@Gregory\_Suliker](#): > > this is not so much about making any impact on the market, as about organizing people and making them stand for their interests You still haven’t described what any of those interests are. What are they? Is it not getting killed by pirates? Is it increasing the value of their goods? > [@Serene\_Repose](#): > > My question (to the OP having dispensed with this age-old argument borne throughout history by ignorance): Why just a week? Why not till they all squeal like stuck pigs in their corvettes, with their civilian mods? I like that much much better. Then, the ego-driven pedestrians won’t be so likely to trash things they don’t understand, but rely so heavily upon. I’ll answer that for him: Because I have a bunch of characters quite capable of industry, and the second that industry becomes financially more viable than running abyssal sites or ganking your whiny carebear ass, you can bet what’s left of that tight little sphincter that I will do that for income instead. And much more efficiently than you to boot. 🕶 > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I’m still wondering where they’re getting the idea that they’re the only ones making stuff. There are plenty of industrialists who are more competent than they are and just rolling with the punches without much effort (you know, because they follow the adage of “adapt or die”). > > But these highsec scrubs have somehow managed to trick themselves into some hilariously bad logic. what I gather is that their thought process operates like so: > > 1. “I’m an industrialist because I don’t participate in PvP.” > 2. “Therefore, people who PvP don’t participate in Industry.” > 3. “Thus, if I stop building, no one will be doing industry in the game.” > 4. “Because of this, prices will skyrocket and PvPs will be hurt.” > 5. “So finally, people who PvP will have to respect me because I control the market.” They think this way because it’s a coping mechanism at the subconscious level. The realization that they’re actually not necessary, and downright _irrelevant_ to the health of the game and its economy would be catastrophic for their psyches. It would entail realizing that they are of no significance, and have no reason for existing. So of course the mind protects them from that realization with a degree of delusion of grandeur. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > You tell us to trash the BPOs that cost like 2B each ? > For what ? It’s kind of like going on a hunger strike. Such a move will surely strike fear into the hearts of the sociopaths and the griefers, since they are very poor by virtue of not being high-IQ, very important and educated and professional businessmen, and wouldn’t be able to afford to buy their own BPOs from which to produce (very inefficiently might I add, because they don’t know how to research them). ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/294 "2020-09-06T23:34:27Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > They think this way because it’s a coping mechanism at the subconscious level. They don’t think that way at all. It’s just you whiners making ■■■■ up. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/295 "2020-09-06T23:37:28Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/9/8965d2ffb22dfff09841e9bf4767e3603829f4ab.png) ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/296 "2020-09-06T23:55:01Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > They don’t think that way at all. Have you… been reading the whole thread? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/297 "2020-09-07T01:39:56Z")
No Like for you! ---
**Author:** ![Derlin\_Fishen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derlin_fishen/32/477895_2.png) [@Derlin\_Fishen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derlin_Fishen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/298 "2020-09-07T01:58:07Z")
There is already one CODE in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/299 "2020-09-07T03:12:08Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > No Like for you! 😮 😧 [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/6/a60fedf60c8cf049f1beef8092fcf1d0375858c5.gif "source: imgur.com")](https://imgur.com/2HBy6WX) ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/300 "2020-09-07T03:34:22Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I’m still wondering where they’re getting the idea that they’re the only ones making stuff. There are plenty of industrialists who are more competent than they are and just rolling with the punches without much effort (you know, because they follow the adage of “adapt or die”). > > But these highsec scrubs have somehow managed to trick themselves into some hilariously bad logic. what I gather is that their thought process operates like so: > > 1. “I’m an industrialist because I don’t participate in PvP.” > 2. “Therefore, people who PvP don’t participate in Industry.” > 3. “Thus, if I stop building, no one will be doing industry in the game.” > 4. “Because of this, prices will skyrocket and PvPs will be hurt.” > 5. “So finally, people who PvP will have to respect me because I control the market.” > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > They think this way because it’s a coping mechanism at the subconscious level. The realization that they’re actually not necessary, and downright _irrelevant_ to the health of the game and its economy would be catastrophic for their psyches. It would entail realizing that they are of no significance, and have no reason for existing. So of course the mind protects them from that realization with a degree of delusion of grandeur. They are people who would like to enjoy their play style and they have right for that… one of you implying things that they haven’t even mean it… second one is commenting and make psych analyses over that imply which is not connected to reality… there is players who does only pvp like me some does trade and pvp or Indy mining and pvp… I know players from all variations… EvE is an “ecosystem “ the second you begin to intimidate or belittle or ignore one of these aspects or drown… it effects all eco system… there is lot of eve players who doesn’t like pvp but they like space and their mining ships or interests whatever… When you people lost your humanity for just sake of being right so badly … pvp people has right to thrive in eve … code has right to thrive… we all part of this eco system… bee is a little but if you take them out of world… you just intimidate yourself… chopping your own conscience… . ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/302 "2020-09-07T03:49:40Z")
The arguments that Scoots and I made were in response to the person (Serene) who made the claim that if these industrialists go on strike, then the market will collapse, and there won’t be any products to buy. Essentially, Serene believes that high-sec carebears are the _sole_ drivers of EVE industry, and that is patently _false_, since many other players are quite capable of industry, and will fill in the gaps left by the low-end high-sec PvE players who go on strike after prices rise enough to again make industry a viable profession for _regular_ players. We’re not saying that high-sec carebears shouldn’t be allowed to engage in their preferred play style; we’re saying that if they decide to go on strike and/or leave, their absence _wouldn’t_ affect the game or its market in any negative capacity. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/303 "2020-09-07T04:19:20Z")
If all non pvp pure indie players leaves that Won’t have any effect on market ? Pvp costs won’t get effected ? I had seen up thread someone said it’s all Jita prices ? I but it’s not … I live in a Amarr 1.5 year never used jita prices … once in an event I throw 20 days… I dried Amarr market all t1 lines and most meta modules dried out … I need to deal with local Indy corps order things ahead… I have sent rookies for the items lack in market … they sold one condor for 5mi some launchers… they made great ink for a 2-3 days old rookie when they are not fighting… that was fun that was cheerful… If you use all kind of market tool in internet you get price for Amarr dodixie rens and jita etc… No Only thing in eve single jita price is PLEX . That’s also thing CCP interfere and hold it single hand … so therefor it’s truly not part and value effected asset regardless to regions… @Oscar_Class shared som data up there… I’m not a trader but I’m a solid consumer… so also connected to traders .We talking … those people are not only producers but people buy and sell between regions… and holding the beats under their fingers… so far… numbers analytics doesn’t say lie and support the perspective … ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/304 "2020-09-07T04:23:56Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > If all non pvp pure indie players leaves that Won’t have any effect on market ? Pvp costs won’t get effected ? Prices **will** go up, however, that is a **good** thing. Right now, so many people are doing industry, that there is virtually **no** price premium for doing that work. A T1 ship is selling at its raw mineral prices, which trivializes the act of building it. If less people did industry, then the time and effort spent on it would carry a premium, turning it into a viable profession. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636/305 "2020-09-07T04:25:30Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > If all non pvp pure indie players leaves that Won’t have any effect on market ? Pvp costs won’t get effected ? I had seen up thread someone said it’s all Jita prices ? You’re still making the assumption that only Industrialists keep the market stocked and that players who PvP and do industry are mutually exclusive. That’s your mistake. **They’re not mutually exclusive.** > [@bluelysian](#): > > I live in a Amarr 1.5 year never used jita prices That’s fine. Because Jita prices were already calculated into the prices you see in Amarr. Just because you didn’t realize it doesn’t mean there’s no influence. > [@bluelysian](#): > > I dried Amarr market all t1 lines and most meta modules dried out … I need to deal with local Indy corps order things ahead… I have sent rookies for the items lack in market … they sold one condor for 5mi some launchers… they made great ink for a 2-3 days old rookie when they are not fighting… that was fun that was cheerful… I mean… okay? I don’t see what this has to do with anything here. Like, I can go out to some random station in the middle of lowsec and buy out all of the T1 modules on the market there… and… declare victory? try to smug on the forums? iono, what are you trying to say with this? that you made a tiny bit of profit one or two sales of T1 modules? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-industry-strike/264636.md?page=16)