# New Eden systems security rating **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626 "2021-06-17T18:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/21 "2021-06-17T19:53:03Z")
Players look at the sec ratings for a system and are able to be instantly informed on everything from CONCORD reaction time,available asteroids, ROE, and other infomation based on CCP’s published gameplay standards. For saying that the OP was not about ganking, there sure seems to be plenty of rehashing the same tired old arguements. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/22 "2021-06-17T19:57:56Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Security rating helpful? When? Maybe it’s helpful to you and it is helpful to me as attackers but as the attacked party, sec rating is more than useless, it’s a confusion for new players and doesn’t even add to the immersion. It’s helpful to all sorts of players. I did not find it confusing at all when I picked up the game. It’s pretty self explanatory to be honest. > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Thank your reply, it’s appreciated but you haven’t convinced me that Security Rating for systems doesn’t need to go. Other people have explained to you various other game mechanics that are affected by system security status as well. not just ganking. I’m not here to “convince” you that it has to stay, as that isn’t your decision anyway. I merely inform you that your assessment that it is useless is wrong. If you are confused about how it works I’m sure we can help you understand. Just ask about what aspect of it you have trouble with. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/23 "2021-06-17T20:00:06Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#): > > I don’t blame you. Those ganking threads are all messed up and then get locked eventually. Yes but they are entertaining. > [@Snowflake\_Sally](#): > > Security Rating? I pay no attention to the security rating. Every system I jump into I treat it like Null. I see the whole of New Eden as NullSec. It helps me a lot. Hey I do that too. I don’t look at the system rating, it’s always irrelevant to my in-game situations and it’s only informative for CCP, not me. “What security space do you operate in?” “I operate in New Eden.” LOL ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/24 "2021-06-17T20:15:21Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > “What security space do you operate in?” > “I operate in New Eden.” LOL I like that. That’ll be my answer next time I’m asked where I fly. I’m stealing it from you and there ain’t nothing you can do about it! Haha! > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > it’s always irrelevant to my in-game situations and it’s only informative for CCP, not me. To tell you the truth, when I first started this game and saw numbers at the gates then read what that was all about I almost quit playing right there. HUH?? Security Space?? WTAF is that all about? I asked myself. Then when I learned more about EVE Online seeing those numbers at the gates just irritated me but then I learned to ignore them and started treating all of new eden as Null. Now I see the numbers but they appear to me to be just random numbers you may see on car parts. Yes, Security rating is so useless that I often don’t even know what sec system I’m in. I don’t care, I know I’m in EVE’S New Eden where anything can happen. CONCORD? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/5/d/b5d17d3c0256ed4da0ea970913838f83e02b79c7.gif "Police Zealand GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY") ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/25 "2021-06-17T20:21:35Z")
Well, it gives you, the player, information about all those things so that you can make informed decisions. I don’t know man, I just don’t understand what’s the problem here. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/26 "2021-06-17T20:28:01Z")
> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > For saying that the OP was not about ganking, there sure seems to be plenty of rehashing the same tired old arguements Nope, sorry. This thread isn’t about ganking. Go get your forum ganking jollies in a ganking thread, not here. This thread is about sec rating whether you like it or not. > [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > Players look at the sec ratings for a system and are able to be instantly informed on everything from CONCORD reaction time,available asteroids, ROE, and other infomation based on CCP’s published gameplay standards No need to know the sec rating. I operate the same in 0.1 as I do 1.0 so it’s useless. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/27 "2021-06-17T20:30:20Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > I don’t know man, I just don’t understand what’s the problem here. You don’t understand because there’s no “problem”. All there is is a thread discussing Security Rating as being useless and obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/28 "2021-06-17T20:31:47Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > If you are confused about how it works I’m sure we can help you understand I’m not confused about how it works, I think you’re confused about the topic of the thread. Read it again, slower this time. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Just ask about what aspect of it you have trouble with. I have no trouble. You seem to have trouble understanding what this thread is about. It’s a DISCUSSION thread, yep… about Security Rating being useless and obsolete ( God I love that word ). This isn’t the help section, it’s General Communication which means your reply isn’t to solve something someone has trouble with but to discuss the topic. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/29 "2021-06-17T20:31:49Z")
you may find it useless and so does the snowflake, but plenty of others don’t find it useless… ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/30 "2021-06-17T20:39:56Z")
Who cares of the others? They can post in here too just like you and the other gentlemen who try to resolve a “problem” in a discussion thread did. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/31 "2021-06-17T20:40:41Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > It’s a DISCUSSION thread, yep… about Security Rating being useless and obsolete ( God I love that word ). Well that is called an echo chamber thread and not a discussion thread if you just want your wrong conception getting confirmed by others. > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > This isn’t the help section, it’s General Communication which means your reply isn’t to solve something someone has trouble with but to discuss the topic. Helping players understand the game is absolutely the purpose of this forums. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/32 "2021-06-17T20:42:55Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Helping players understand the game is absolutely the purpose of this forums. That’s great! Except **I don’t need help understanding the game** , you get it through your thick skull? This is a **DISCUSSION** thread, NOT A HELPME THREAD. Do you understand? Do ya now?? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/33 "2021-06-17T20:43:05Z")
So you want everyone here to agree with you about it being useless, but for the ones who explain why it’s not useless you basically just don’t want to have a discussion about that… great to know… You wanted a discussion, I thought for the most part we were discussing why we find that it’s NOT useless. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/34 "2021-06-17T20:45:29Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > So you want everyone here to agree with you about it being useless, but for the ones who explain why it’s not useless you basically just don’t want to have a discussion about that… great to know… And they said EVE players were smart. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/a/e/bae31ff9e0c27adeaa55120cfaa6af479544038f.webp "gordon ramsay GIF by Masterchef - Find & Share on GIPHY") ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/35 "2021-06-17T20:46:36Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > CCP should rid New Eden of the systems security rating. Thats an opinion. We’ve discussed why There is a security rating system… Doesn’t matter what anyone says, you’ve made your point in your first sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/36 "2021-06-17T20:48:31Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > CCP should rid New Eden of the systems security rating. They should do a LOT of things that they aren’t doing but they’re too busy looking at the falling cash. Security Rating for solar systems? Totally useless. The fact they’re still up at each gate tells me how much CCP cares about the players. It’s a joke. And CONCORD? Hmm haha!! I like those dancing cops representing CONCORD because that’s exactly what CONCORD is, a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/37 "2021-06-17T20:51:01Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > That’s great! Except **I don’t need help understanding the game** , you get it through your thick skull? No, I still think you need help understanding the game > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > This is a **DISCUSSION** thread, NOT A HELPME THREAD. Do you understand? Do ya now?? I understand it more as a silent cry for help because you are confused about the system security rating. Since we are all good people here we recognized that even before you did and just try to help. In general, it’s not really helpful to you as a player to just start rants about a game mechanic that troubles you. Just accept that the difficulty you are having with it may be rooted in confusion or lack of information, we can help with that. Ask away ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/38 "2021-06-17T20:53:59Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Do you understand? Do ya now?? LMAO!! Don’t waste your time replying to the likes of him. They’re only on this forum to aggravate people, they’re not here for discussion and when you look at their posts all there is veiled insults and put-downs. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/39 "2021-06-17T20:54:22Z")
Why are you replying to your own alt? ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/40 "2021-06-17T20:58:17Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > LMAO!! Don’t waste your time replying to the likes of him. They’re only on this forum to aggravate people, they’re not here for discussion and when you look at their posts all there is veiled insults and put-downs. I think you’re right. I don’t even know why I thought that posting a discussion thread on this forum was a good idea. But at least I got two or three posters in here who understand what the thread is about so it’s not all negative. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626.md?page=3)