# New Eden systems security rating **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626 "2021-06-17T18:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/61 "2021-06-17T23:01:29Z")
Oh yes. We got trolls slithering out of every crevasse of this forum, like cockroaches in a dank humid basement. @Admiral_M_fune Would you like if the security rating of systems is replaced with colors? Like: Green for 1.0- 0.5 Orange for 0.4 - 0.0 Red for -0.1 - -0.5 Purple -0.6 - -… ? At least those colors would mean something. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/62 "2021-06-17T23:08:07Z")
> [@Astelon\_Bheskagor](#): > > ^ LOL > > Security rating is fine. Best solution for you would be a mining permit. OH hello, troll!! Bye-bye, troll!! ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/63 "2021-06-17T23:10:37Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#): > > Would you like if the security rating of systems is replaced with colors? > Like: > Green for 1.0- 0.5 > Orange for 0.4 - 0.0 > Red for -0.1 - -0.5 > Purple -0.6 - -… > ? > At least those colors would mean something. Maybe. I’d have to think about it but it still would be useless, wouldn’t it? I mean the green orange red and purple would just replace the numbers which are, we have now determined beyond the shadow of a doubt, useless and obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/64 "2021-06-17T23:24:13Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > I mean the green orange red and purple would just replace the numbers Not really. The colors would group several security ratings under one color and the color would let you know what general parts of space you’re in. Although I understand that it wouldn’t change much of anything but at least there wouldn’t be gazillion parts of space ( which are really all the same from a combat point of view ) but 3 or 4 parts of space. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/65 "2021-06-17T23:38:04Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#): > > Although I understand that it wouldn’t change much of anything but at least there wouldn’t be gazillion parts of space ( which are really all the same from a combat point of view ) but 3 or 4 parts of space. The idea has merit and for keeping the sec rating then I’d prefer your colour idea than those bs numbers that serve no purpose whatsoever. However, I would rather eliminate the idea of “different parts of space” altogether because it’s all the same space but for some menial game mechanics and stuff that the players can figure out in other ways. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/66 "2021-06-17T23:39:41Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Seriously, can anyone tell me why New Eden has a security rating for each system while at the same time _not_ being a security rating? I haven’t mined in a long time so things have changed, but security rating in high sec gave a guide on what ores were available and what to expect from the ordinary rats. And since the thread isn’t about ganking, I won’t mention how CONCORD response time has factored for me and my outlaw alt. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/67 "2021-06-17T23:45:06Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > I haven’t mined in a long time so things have changed Please tell me what made you believe I was posting about mining? > [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > but security rating in high sec gave a guide on what ores were available and what to expect from the ordinary rats. That can be found in other ways than having ridiculous numbers on gates and in the game map. Not only that but I think not knowing what you’ll get ( ratting, mining whatever ) is even more exciting than knowing beforehand. > [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > I won’t mention how CONCORD response time has factored for me and my outlaw alt. Yes, that’s what I’m saying. Security rating of systems is only useful for evading CONCORD. It’s useless otherwise. Thank you for participating. I appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/68 "2021-06-17T23:45:42Z")
“Waaaahhhh I can be ganked in any system so all systems must be the same for gankers” ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/69 "2021-06-17T23:49:42Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Not only that but I think not knowing what you’ll get ( ratting, mining whatever ) is even more exciting than knowing beforehand. +100 YES! I completely agree with that. If the players didn’t know what they’d get out of a specific system I think the game would be enhanced and the players would love being part of a universe they’d have to explore just to find out what a certain gameplay would bring them. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/70 "2021-06-17T23:51:42Z")
So despite saying > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > PS: This thread is NOT about ganking. it was about ganking and not the other things affected by security status. Ok. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/71 "2021-06-17T23:55:02Z")
> [@Gaming513\_Tyler](#): > > “Waaaahhhh I can be ganked in any system so all systems must be the same for gankers” For the love of… JEEESUS!!! Yet another troll! What’s this? EVE Online forum or Trolls Online forum? ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/72 "2021-06-17T23:56:42Z")
Ah yes, asserting facts must be trolling To argue security status should be removed is to argue it has **zero** use, which is strictly not true. There are reasons for it to exist, regardless of if you personally find them helpful in your everyday gameplay. Furthermore, any change to eve has to be justified because of dev time and pos code. Features that do nothing don’t get removed because they don’t hurt anyone Get over your pre-conceived notion that anyone disagreeing with you is a troll ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/73 "2021-06-17T23:57:01Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > PS: This thread is NOT about ganking. > [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > it was about ganking Surely you can’t be _that_ stupid, can you? ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/74 "2021-06-18T00:00:47Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > However, I would rather eliminate the idea of “different parts of space” altogether because it’s all the same space but for some menial game mechanics and stuff that the players can figure out in other ways I won’t deny that the colors idea is a few notches under eliminating the different parts of space altogether, for sure. Yet, it would be a compromise between having stupid numbers that don’t mean much and nothing at all. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/75 "2021-06-18T00:03:43Z")
Maybe you should read this response: > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Yes, that’s what I’m saying. Security rating of systems is only useful for evading CONCORD. It’s useless otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/76 "2021-06-18T00:04:32Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > Surely you can’t be _that_ stupid, can you? Oh you’d be surprised, my friend. The amount of stupidity I read everyday on the net makes his idiocy tame compared to that. This forum has way less idiots than a few others I used to frequent. On the other hand, it has more trolls than any forum I’ve ever been a part of. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/77 "2021-06-18T00:07:46Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Maybe you should read this response So just because he said that he’s upset about ganking? After specifically mentioning that the thread wasn’t about ganking?? Well that’s a stretch. Maybe you should take M’fune at his word and believe it isn’t about ganking. Did that ever occur to you or do you think _everyone_ is a liar? ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/78 "2021-06-18T00:10:37Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > Did that ever occur to you or do you think _everyone_ is a liar? No, he thinks I’m a liar so I don’t see the point of continuing to exchange with him. Maybe I should not have mentioned “it’s not about ganking” ? ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/79 "2021-06-18T00:13:00Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Maybe I should not have mentioned “it’s not about ganking” ? Now that I see the responses of those bozos? Definitely should’ve left that out 😂 But don’t edit your OP or the editing of it will attract more nonsense and idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/80 "2021-06-18T00:16:19Z")
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