# New Eden systems security rating **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626 "2021-06-17T18:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/101 "2021-06-18T01:05:02Z")
I’m still checking the sec status of systems 11years into the game. It’s pretty integral to the risk/reward system of eve. > [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Oh yeah, about that. I’ve heard people claim that sec status still affect payouts, but I remember hearing somewhere that someone said that that is no longer the case. So, don’t know. Haven’t tested. Yeah it still makes a difference. CCP got rid of agent quality but the best payouts are still in lower sec systems. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/102 "2021-06-18T01:23:26Z")
> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > CCP should rid New Eden of the systems security rating. It only causes confusion ( is that what CCP hoped to accomplish with the systems sec rating? Confuse its players? ) and serves no purpose _whatsoever_ I’ve argued for the removal of the security rating for a long while now, my friend. You and I both now those stupid numbers will not go away anytime soon but I see you’re having fun on your thread. We’ll, that’s that at least. > [@leavwiz](#): > > the security rating system has been rendered all but meaningless in the latest moves to make things more “dynamic” throughout EVE. Not only has the DBS/ESS/bounty multiplier made a joke of the security rating valules. the announced plans to add upgrades to Ihubs to modify ratting and industry are another move away from the security rating meaning anything in terms of system value and function. the spreading of minerals to make us more nomadic is just another indicator that security is really only a space designation with no real value. and then there is trig space. ganking, bubbles, etc that used to be more sec based have also been adjusted by changes to nullification. So yah, perhaps it is time to just get rid of systems security values. they dont really mean much anymore ^^ THAT ^^ > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > The system security ratings in Highsec absolutely matter as they tell you how fast CONCORD will respond to an attack or how fast the faction police will chase you around Why do you say “you” when you’re actually talking about yourself? > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > This is a **DISCUSSION** thread, NOT A HELPME THREAD. Do you understand? Do ya now?? 😂 > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > That’s what I thought the first time I saw those numbers. I thought they were tax rates I thought the numbers on the gates were some kind of address or something, lmao. > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Not only that but I think not knowing what you’ll get ( ratting, mining whatever ) is even more exciting than knowing beforehand. ❤ > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > YES! I completely agree with that. If the players didn’t know what they’d get out of a specific system I think the game would be enhanced and the players would love being part of a universe they’d have to explore just to find out what a certain gameplay would bring them. I too like that idea. It would b much more interesting if we _didn’t_ know what to expect and what we’d get. > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Not at all. I’m not editing anything. This thread isn’t about ganking and those who can’t believe it can eat my shorts. ❤ > [@Snowflake\_Sally](#): > > DING DING DING did the coin drop yet? ❤ 😂 > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > I should have started a thread about playing marbles or toy cars or Ken&Barbie, that would’ve been more on their level. 🤣👍 > [@Snowflake\_Sally](#): > > It’s not about me, idiot. It’s about a discussion on Security Rating. > Repeat after me: > Se-cu-ri-ty Ra-ting. _very good!_ 🤣 > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > It’s no wonder the members of CCP don’t want to engage with these people. If I worked for CCP I wouldn’t even open the forum main page. Neither would I. > [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#): > > Calm down, miner. 🤣😂❤ ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/103 "2021-06-18T01:27:25Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > > > bring them. > > I too like that idea. It would b much more interesting if we _didn’t_ know what to expect and what we’d get. Han!! Where the heck have you been? I missed you in game! You left me high and dry and haven’t logged in for months! How are you? ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/104 "2021-06-18T01:34:32Z")
I don’t know about ‘dry’ but I know I left you ‘high’ LoL I been busy abroad getting justice for myself and by god did I get justice! I paid my three lawyers and _still_ have enough to retire on, courtesy of the American government. It took 8 years but I can say now it was way worth the wait. I’ll be logging into EVE as soon as I can get into my new house and hook everything up. Tell me you still have all my stuff and the isk I gave you to hold. Back on topic. That security rating is so ridiculous that most new players can’t make heads or tail about it. It’s bad enough that it’s called a “security rating” while it has nothing to do with Security but it’s even worse when CCP uses it against the players. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/105 "2021-06-18T01:40:06Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > I been busy abroad getting justice for myself and by god did I get justice! OMG Han! You finally got what you been crying about for so long? I’m SO freaking happy for you! I hope that will give you back the inner peace you deserve. No one should’ve been subjected to what they did to you. I’m so happy for you! ❤ ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/106 "2021-06-18T01:45:56Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > Tell me you still have all my stuff and the isk I gave you to hold. I have _everything_ you entrusted to me and every isk as well. But we’ll chat about all that in-game when you finally log back in. > [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > It’s bad enough that it’s called a “security rating” while it has nothing to do with Security but it’s even worse when CCP uses it against the players Yes I forgot about how CCP uses it to shove us around. If the sec rating didn’t exist a lot of those crappy changes might have been different, even beneficial to us players. That resource reshuffling, for example, wouldn’t have happened because there wouldn’t have been a need to try and shuffle players there or there. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/107 "2021-06-18T01:58:05Z")
Thank you very much. Yes, it’s calmed me down a lot. I don’t want to choke everybody to death anymore, lol. You should’ve seen how they squirmed in their chairs on the other side of the courtroom. Just watching their faces while the judge read the compensations they are to give me was worth all time I waited… almost. My real satisfaction is my kids though. They also get Justice and I wanted that for them more than for me. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/108 "2021-06-18T02:10:15Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > Thank you very much. Yes, it’s calmed me down a lot. I don’t want to choke everybody to death anymore, lol. I don’t know what happened to you but I’m glad you don’t want to choke everybody to death anymore 😄 > [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > It’s bad enough that it’s called a “security rating” while it has nothing to do with Security but it’s even worse when CCP uses it against the players Indeed. It has **nothing** to do with Security at all. I think CCP aimed at confusing players, at least new players, or they would’ve named it differently, like simply Systems’ Rating or Space Rating. The fact that they introduced “security” in the name tells me it was about confusing players and the fact they haven’t changed the name for it in 18yrs proves the point. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/109 "2021-06-18T02:20:39Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > My real satisfaction is my kids though. They also get Justice and I wanted that for them more than for me. That’s really awesome. I can’t wait to see you in Amarr space! Some things have changed with the game, you might want to read your forum mail for the announcements and read on the updates. I fear your manufacturing operation may be over, unless you like jumping through useless hoops to accomplish what was possible to accomplish in two clicks. OH, and I’ve got your Stabber. I just tested it on NPCs, that’s all. It’s still in one piece and I replaced the ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/long_tall_sallie/32/265995_2.png) [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Long_Tall_Sallie)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/110 "2021-06-18T02:24:23Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > courtesy of the American government. If you won a court case against the U.S gov. then I salute you! o7 ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/long_tall_sallie/32/265995_2.png) [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Long_Tall_Sallie)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/111 "2021-06-18T02:30:46Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > you know why? > Because they can’t wait to belittle another person, they can’t wait to ridicule and harass forum members that really want a discussion about what they find silly or idiotic in the game. These people are just on this forum to insult, insinuate false crap about people and all that in the goal to make themselves feel better about themselves and ganking is the perfect subject for that since it has conotations of frustration and salt You are right. That is why I do not post often although I do read the threads. Too many mean trolls on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/112 "2021-06-18T02:50:35Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > OH, and I’ve got your Stabber. I just tested it on NPCs, that’s all. It’s still in one piece and I replaced the ammo. Keep it. I’ll get me another one. I’ve got enough ships as it is and one of my alts already lost a Stabber as well so it’s no big deal. > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > Some things have changed with the game, you might want to read your forum mail for the announcements and read on the updates Thanks, I shall. I know CCP likes to change the deal on us every month or so it’s **required** reading _on top_ of the time spent in game 🙄 > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > I fear your manufacturing operation may be over, unless you like jumping through useless hoops to accomplish what was possible to accomplish in two clicks I don’t think I want to manufacture anymore anyways. I want to concentrate on P.I and PvP now. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/113 "2021-06-18T02:56:50Z")
@Brisc_Rubal@Mike_Azariah@Jim_Halescott What do you all think of the Sec Status? ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/114 "2021-06-18T02:57:47Z")
> [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](#): > > You are right. That is why I do not post often although I do read the threads. Too many mean trolls on this forum. Just ignore those people. Once you know why they come on the forum all you have to do is deny them that which they came for. I read your posts in the french section. Is english your second language? ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/115 "2021-06-18T03:02:39Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > Keep it. I’ll get me another one Wow thanks! And it has a skin, too! I appreciate that ❤ > [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > **required** reading _on top_ of the time spent in game Well, still have to go to those websites for the game so “required reading” is pretty much a must in EVE. I spend more time on the internet reading about the game than actually playing it, lol. > [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > I want to concentrate on P.I and PvP now We can practice PvP together with M’fune if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/long_tall_sallie/32/265995_2.png) [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Long_Tall_Sallie)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/116 "2021-06-18T03:08:44Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > I read your posts in the french section. Is english your second language? No it’s my third. Second language is Dutch. I’ve been learning English for two year now. Google translate help a lot. > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > Just ignore those people. Once you know why they come on the forum all you have to do is deny them that which they came for Yes but the things they write is just ugly. Don’t make me want to participate. This thread is one of few threads I post in since I joined. You should respond to my thread 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/117 "2021-06-18T03:18:49Z")
> [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](#): > > I’ve been learning English for two year now. Google translate help a lot. Google is our friend… well, was. You’re doing well in English, congrats. > [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](#): > > You should respond to my thread I’ll try. I’ll use Google translate then you can make fun of my french, lol. Back on topic or we’re gonna get dissed. What did you think the first time you saw the security rating on the gates and on the map? ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/long_tall_sallie/32/265995_2.png) [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Long_Tall_Sallie)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/118 "2021-06-18T03:24:53Z")
I thought the numbers were for show, like vanity. You know like planet names in science fiction: LV-426 in Aliens and so on. But then I noticed the colours on the map: green, yellow, red… then I went to internet and read about it and thought it’s quite dumb to have that but it doesn’t bother me. I think all security systems the same: you don’t pay attention you die. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/119 "2021-06-18T03:30:44Z")
why are you dragging me into this unsanity? I am going to go feed roses to the unicorn in the garden (Oh and smartbombs on the Jita undock would make for some fantastic fireworks along with Titans destroying the TTT in perimeter.) boobies, the lot of you… m ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626/120 "2021-06-18T03:33:28Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > @Brisc_Rubal @Mike_Azariah @Jim_Halescott What do you all think of the Sec Status? Calling for backup, eh? LOL I don’t care one bit what Rubal, Azariah or Helescott are going to say. The Security Rating for the systems has never been a good idea as far’s I’m concerned and a New Eden without those stupid numbers next to the system names would be a breath of fresh air. Everything already mentioned above doesn’t need those numbers at all. Take away the numbers, make all parts of space one part of space and everything you explained about the topic will remain the same. Again, the numbers don’t dictate anything. CCP does. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eden-systems-security-rating/316626.md?page=7)