# New EVE Forum

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 21, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088 "2021-06-21T06:42:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chromosome\_Commander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chromosome_commander/32/272273_2.png) [@Chromosome\_Commander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chromosome_Commander)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/21 "2021-06-21T11:21:34Z")

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Yes! DOWN WITH THE OPPRESSORS LOCKING GENUINE THREADS LEFT AND RIGHT.

VIVA LA RESISTANCE

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/22 "2021-06-21T11:24:38Z")

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> [@Fale\_Einn](#):
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> How is it impossible?  
> That doesn’t make any sense to me mainly because it easier to make one without having to make a mechanism to to ban or block people…

Step 1. Create uncensored forum  
Step 2. People post unrelated stuff  
Step 3. People post illegal stuff  
Step 4. Your uncensored forum got taken down by the hosting site, forced by authorities

An unmoderated place on the internet doesn’t exist, or if it exists it won’t exist for long. Some kind of censorship or moderation will always be required.

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**Author:** ![Chromosome\_Commander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chromosome_commander/32/272273_2.png) [@Chromosome\_Commander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chromosome_Commander)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/23 "2021-06-21T11:25:59Z")

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Ok bootlicker.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/24 "2021-06-21T11:28:50Z")

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I don’t always agree with the moderation on this forum, but asking for an uncensored forum is just naive.

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**Author:** ![Chromosome\_Commander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chromosome_commander/32/272273_2.png) [@Chromosome\_Commander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chromosome_Commander)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/25 "2021-06-21T11:29:51Z")

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ISD is out of control.

#AbolishISD

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/26 "2021-06-21T11:32:14Z")

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Go make your own forum… with blackjack and exotic dancers

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/27 "2021-06-21T11:37:10Z")

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That’s all fine, but the fact is there are lots of sites like that and in most cases they are self moderating in that people aren’t posting illegal crap or whatever.  
Making one is still easy, and more so that making ones with tools for moderation, though now I think we are sort of off the point of this thread which is about getting away from the ISD who have proven to be a bit overzealous at times.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/28 "2021-06-21T11:41:05Z")

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> [@Fale\_Einn](#):
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> getting away from the ISD who have proven to be a bit overzealous at times.

So the ISD used to be less vigilent, but then a segment of the forum regulars wanted more moderation.

So what do people want then? Cause it seems like people just don’t wanted their ■■■■ moderated.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/29 "2021-06-21T11:46:56Z")

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All I would like to see is the ISD not block anything till after 6:30 pm est so I have a chance to post before the lock!  
IB4TL!

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/30 "2021-06-21T11:50:10Z")

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> [@Fale\_Einn](#):
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> How is it impossible?  
> That doesn’t make any sense to me mainly because it easier to make one without having to make a mechanism to to ban or block people…

Because there are policies of hosting platforms and legal requirements to abide by.

Even in a situation where an extremely permissive owner started a platform, they are still governed by their legal system, by the EULA they agree too with whoever hosts their forum, what they can and can’t allow and what they must report if it’s posted.

It’s just not possible to create a truly uncensored forum and nor should it be.

So in the end, the OP is asking if we’d use a different platform, not moderated by ISDs, but by her rules instead.

Apparently, the rules of Reddit (the other popular forum for EVE discussion) aren’t good enough.

What about SomethingAwful instead? It also has a long history of EVE related content tied mostly to Goons and is very permissive - but still has rules to abide by.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/31 "2021-06-21T11:51:42Z")

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I’m responding to a poll about ISD and making a new forum where they don’t have control.

> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#):
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> If a new forum opened up online for you to share about EVE and had no ISD censure, would you go use it and participate?

And to a this:

> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Lol. No censorship, except for the censorship.
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> It’s impossible to make an uncensored forum. It just can’t exist (and IP banning has very limited effectiveness).

I simply wanted to know why he thinks it’s impossible. I don’t think it is impossible, impractical maybe but not impossible.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/32 "2021-06-21T11:54:43Z")

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> [@Fale\_Einn](#):
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> I’m responding to a poll about ISD and making a new forum where they don’t have control.

Yes? And I’m just responding that the forum used to be less moderated, but a group of regulars wanted ISD to be active in their moderation.

I mean, I looked at the thread that spawned this one. Like the rules or not, the hidden posts were indeed off-topic and against the rules. They should have made a new thread to continue their discussion instead of bloating a thread about something completely different.

The ISD even went easy on them by hiding it, instead of just removing the posts.

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**Author:** ![Chromosome\_Commander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chromosome_commander/32/272273_2.png) [@Chromosome\_Commander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chromosome_Commander)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/33 "2021-06-21T11:55:44Z")

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Listen here kiddo…No. As Green Beret I was trained not to walk away from oppression but face it and fight for freedom and liberty.

Our motto is Lè Espresso Libido which is latin (an ancient language you probably dont understand) which means to liberate from oppression.

Now I might be a retired decorated veteran with multiple top scecret missions under my belt but just because I am retired doesn’t mean I dont carry the values with me anymore ok kiddo ?!

I graduated top of my class and as they say. Once a green beret always a green beret.

So I will always fight oppression such as the ISD.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/34 "2021-06-21T11:56:01Z")

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I’ve never seen that, but I understand what you are getting at.  
I thought you meant from a programing standpoint, not hosting. I run one for my customers, I run it locally from my own server and illegal stuff has never been an issue. It gets off color to say the least, but never illegal or even really offensive.  
I suppose though if something illegal did pop up I would do something about it in a very big hurry.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/35 "2021-06-21T11:59:30Z")

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> [@Chromosome\_Commander](#):
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> Lè Espresso Libido

I’m drinking espresso right now and my libido seems completely unaffected. On the other hand fighting oppression is a pretty good thing to be doing. With or without fancy credentials.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/36 "2021-06-21T12:02:32Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> So the ISD used to be less vigilent, but then a segment of the forum regulars wanted more moderation.
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> So what do people want then? Cause it seems like people just don’t wanted their ■■■■ moderated.

This.

Make up your bloody minds people.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/37 "2021-06-21T12:02:55Z")

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![blackjack_and_hookers](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/0/0/800ae51a07a64154ec1e43b060c630954abb8bf5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Chromosome\_Commander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chromosome_commander/32/272273_2.png) [@Chromosome\_Commander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chromosome_Commander)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/38 "2021-06-21T12:03:39Z")

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Considering you taught me what that massage wand is for I am not surprised

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/39 "2021-06-21T12:07:01Z")

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Are you talking about my cargo ship?!? The one named Hitachi Magic Wand?  
I knew that would come back to bite me someday…

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**Author:** ![Chromosome\_Commander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chromosome_commander/32/272273_2.png) [@Chromosome\_Commander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chromosome_Commander)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-forum/317088/40 "2021-06-21T12:07:56Z")

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I can delete the post… literally too autistic to realize when I hit under the belt 😉

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