# New Eve Low **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 1, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065 "2019-07-01T22:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/41 "2019-07-02T00:27:23Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > You sound like a conspiracy hermit. šŸ¤­ What it really sounds like is Boom Boom is so bored heā€™s arguing with his own alt to pass the time. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/42 "2019-07-02T00:29:43Z")
We need a tinfoil hat and/or a tinfoil capsule skin šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![Caldari\_Citizen\_93121628](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldari_citizen_93121628/32/144732_2.png) [@Caldari\_Citizen\_93121628](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldari_Citizen_93121628)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/43 "2019-07-02T00:41:36Z")
_Oh god, do I dare say anything?_ Ahem, well, Iā€™m a new casual player. Maybe not brand new, technically, as I created my awful-named character a couple of years ago, tried to play on a MacBook Air and found that was untenable. Now, I have a GeForce Now (beta I guess) and while they figure out how Iā€™m able to actually play this thing like they say I can, Iā€™ve dusted theā€¦dust off of my cringe-chills character and I am dipping my toes in for a proper taste. This game has been on my jaded gaming radar for about a decade. Ever since the crazy stories started making their way around the webs, then the book, more stories, and, finally, a way for me to sort-of proper PC game at a price point my spouse wouldnā€™t castrate me at - enter Nvidia Shield + GeForce Now. Before I picked that little baby up I had been consoles - all consoles - all the way. Maybe you donā€™t want a bunch of console jockeys flooding in, but if GeForce Now (and Stadia, or any other cloud/virtual streaming service) are any indication, the ability to PC game is going to become a lot more accessible for a lot more people much sooner rather than later. It would seem it would behoove developers too embrace this because money. Anyways, I recognize Iā€™m just a single extremely noob voice. But, any gamer - console or not - worth their salt knows what Eve is and is equal parts fascinated, giddy, and terrified by it. Maybe Iā€™ll make it three days before throwing up my hands and crawling back to [enter boom bang crack reload zing FPS]. Or, maybe Iā€™ll rise up through the ranks of some Corp, only to be devastated by the Goons in some fruitless and misguided offensive attack, which would be like being killed by your favorite celebrity. Okay, Iā€™ll crawl back into hi sec and finish some tutorials. Or, not? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/44 "2019-07-02T00:54:24Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Heā€™s demanding no non-consensual PVP (or maybe no combat) in Hi Sec. Itā€™s kind of hilarious to see highsec carebears trying to use an actual problem to support their risk averse agenda. Thanks for the info, itā€™s all making sense now. ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/45 "2019-07-02T07:45:55Z")
Well this old vet is coming back, just got laid off for a couple weeks, Iā€™m glad I subbed for a year couple months back. The thing is Iā€™m worried about committing to a time sink by joining a corp, I have my own Corp, just me, me and me. Not too fun, same stories and such. I want to go back to low sec, thatā€™s where I started it being back memories of being a poor as church mouse ratter for the first 10 years. Iā€™m glad the numbers are down I always felt it was too crowded i like the emptiness of space. I never had any problems with the pirates and such. Lost a few ships, rage quit over a battle ship I struggle to get when in delve. Lol the was my best ship. I didnā€™t quit because I lost it I was mad I didnā€™t see the trap in time, I saw the lookout but I jump anyway. Just want to say this since I started in 03 no one thought EVE would have lasted this long, Iā€™m glad itā€™s still here Iā€™m going check out my old haunts, make new enemies/friends. šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/46 "2019-07-02T08:05:39Z")
Free the Erotica1! ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/47 "2019-07-02T09:47:28Z")
> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#): > > Less than 20k concurrent online players for the first time in the last ten years - CCP upper management -this is indicative of how out of touch you have been with the direction ā€œgrand visionsā€ of the game - and where we are now under your direction - congratulations with selling eve up the river - hope the corporate greed was worth it - great job on the scam selling Pearl Abyss the scam you have, so much irony here, but alas. Am I wrong? Boom Boom Longtime, your opinion doesnā€™t matter to those that count. I stand with you, but unfortunately itā€™s useless. ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/48 "2019-07-02T09:56:09Z")
> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#): > > 65k players online a fabricated number, asked, infact begged by CCP during a live stream to log on as many accounts as you can to get the number to a new record, the record was broken, end of, there was never 65k players online daily. the sky is falling again like it does every summer. thanks for reporting it. again! ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/49 "2019-07-02T11:40:57Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > It always strikes me as weird that itā€™s almost always these type of players threatening the end of the game, when we have people who are subscribing dozens upon dozens of alts per single player out in nullsec. > > Besides, whatā€™s your point? Are you demanding that CCP lower PLEX prices in game for you? That CCP make PvE easier for you? That CCP personally give you 5,000 PLEX just because youā€™re threatening them with the game shutting down? Contexā€¦first rule in a conversation is get aware of the contextā€¦ I wasnā€™t stating ā€œeve is dyingā€ i was stating ā€œif your nightmare of an eve will become real and you play with 5000 other fools eve will die because itā€™s not profitable anymoreā€ā€¦ Slight but important differenceā€¦ Next time PLEASEā€¦Before you answer anything make sure you UNDERSTAND what is meant to protect you against embarrassments like this. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/50 "2019-07-02T13:07:10Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Next time PLEASEā€¦Before you answer anything make sure you UNDERSTAND what is meant to protect you against embarrassments like this. šŸ™‚ These kind of answers from the forums are all too common, theyā€™re just poorly disguised insults that donā€™t add anything else to the conversation. Unfortunately for you, Iā€™ve already address your claim of ā€œif your nightmare of an eve will become real and you play with 5000 other foolsā€ as being a positive. Whether or not EVE will die is still up in the air. You havenā€™t provided any proof that this will happen. Just saying something doesnā€™t make it true unless youā€™ve got something to back it up. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/51 "2019-07-02T13:32:08Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Too much pvp in every part of the game ![giphy%20(5)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/9/f9addf95ed81c2b34ddbb6b05a632b5278d67436.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/52 "2019-07-02T14:09:49Z")
> [@Phoebe\_Obray](#): > > Itā€™s summer and at least here in Europe itā€™s way warmer than normal. Iā€™d say lots of people are doing other things than play PC games. Less drama, thanks. Thatā€™s always the excuse - itā€™s summer, itā€™s holiday time, people going back to school, etcā€¦ the game has been bleeding players for years. It also so happens that this bleeding of players coincides with CCP making changes to core game play. They keep doing the same thing expecting different results, but life doesnā€™t work that way. If they want players to come back they need to get back to their roots. ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/53 "2019-07-02T15:03:39Z")
what horse shite. hahahahaha ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/54 "2019-07-02T15:44:28Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Contexā€¦first rule in a conversation is get aware of the contextā€¦ > > I wasnā€™t stating ā€œeve is dyingā€ i was stating ā€œif your nightmare of an eve will become real and you play with 5000 other fools eve will die because itā€™s not profitable anymoreā€ā€¦ > > Slight but important differenceā€¦ > > Next time PLEASEā€¦Before you answer anything make sure you UNDERSTAND what is meant to protect you against embarrassments like this. šŸ™‚ ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  spin, backtracking. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/55 "2019-07-02T16:48:00Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > but normal people see that is one small step in the right direction,other will have to follow. > [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > And yes this means less PVP. ā– ā– ā– ā–  off Balos. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/56 "2019-07-02T17:03:15Z")
And how many of those are 1 person with a 10-man rorq fleet or CODE and their dozens of 25-man broadcast input fleetsā€¦ LOL!! Individual players would probably put that number at ~10,000 at best. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/57 "2019-07-02T18:15:31Z")
EvE is dead. I agree with you all %100. Iā€™m sure you will be leaving this terrible game. Iā€™m sure I will be following you out soon. I would gratefully accept any isk or things you might graciously give me on your way outā€¦just to show not everyone who played this game was a selfish toxic sociopath jerk. tia ---
**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/58 "2019-07-02T22:29:32Z")
I was quite drunk when I made this rambling last night - but regardless of wine consumed, I do believe everything said was indicative of reality and veritas of situation. CCP have reached the point where the ā€œcommunityā€ is give or take lost - I see no way how CCP will stem the falling online concurrent players now - and well, ultimately the blame for all of this current situation is not with the devs who still give a damn, but ccp upper management - they are accountable. I have learnt so much playing this game - it was a journey for me across a few characters. We are where we are because of the decisions CCP Upper Management have made - they are ultimately accountable. But, hey, if iā€™m wrong please tell me - albeit iā€™m going to bed again soon, so alas, iā€™ll endeavour to reply once the bed bugs have had their feed ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/59 "2019-07-02T23:23:37Z")
ā€œA drunk manā€™s words are a sober manā€™s thoughtsā€ ~ Steve Fergosi ---
**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065/60 "2019-07-03T06:00:18Z")
Iā€™m paraphrasing here, but I saw a show that had a funny but philosophical quote, something like ā€œwe all die. But youā€™re worried, worried, worried, and going to die. Iā€™m happy, happy, happy, and going to die. See the difference?!?ā€ Why worry about it? Just enjoy the game day by day until you donā€™t. Plus what long term MMO has reached its previous peak numbers? Even WoW hasnā€™t regained its peak of 12 million, and probably never will. Nothing lasts forever, but PA put down over $400 million for a company that maybe makes $50 million per year, and PA likely did their homework for such a sum. Throwing out a wild number here, but Iā€™m sure EVEā€™s got at least another 10 years of life left in it, since PA is gonna want a return on their investment. So sure, keep involved and let them know your opinions, but otherwise just relax and try to enjoy the show. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-low/171065.md?page=4)