# New Permanent Needlejack Filaments | EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 21, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230 "2020-02-21T19:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/62 "2020-02-22T09:03:15Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > Nobody as anything against miners and actual PvE players, but against mass farmers. > > There is a big difference between them. Simply get that into your -obviously- small brain, so at least when you try to answer again you will know who you are defending instead of posting random BS. There is no difference,just a fact about them. The more that are ingame the better,because this game NEEDS them. Your own -obviously-small brain may telll you otherwise but the FACTS are saying something else. Swallow it or leave. ---
**Author:** ![JayGatsby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaygatsby/32/392992_2.png) [@JayGatsby](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JayGatsby)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/63 "2020-02-22T10:02:49Z")
Yeah realism is what we want. Stff like traveling under th speed of light and not beeing immortal šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/64 "2020-02-22T10:57:52Z")
> [@Adrian\_Vexier](#): > > It will surely stir up null-sec It wil only have a minimum effect. How many roaming fleets do you think will use these? One, two, three at the most at any given time, and how many 0.0 systems are there ā€¦ a few thousand? And if such a fleet gets into your system, most will just dock and wait till it has left again. > [@Adrian\_Vexier](#): > > It will also allow blitz squadrons to strike deep behind enemy lines This is just bollocks. You have idea where you will end up. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/65 "2020-02-22T11:01:01Z")
> [@AnatanD\_Airin](#): > > It does not go into the concept of space for realism Eve Online is not realistic. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/66 "2020-02-22T11:01:20Z")
> [@Adrian\_Vexier](#): > > enemy lines We are all friends here. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/67 "2020-02-22T11:02:52Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Well i played jumpgate classicā€¦30 min accelerating with the main engine ,30 min decelerating with the main engine in a freighter and then dying while docking because you collided with the docking tubeā€¦ ā€¦WITH damage inflicting collision on EVERY objectā€¦ So, that is how you lost your mind. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/68 "2020-02-22T11:03:02Z")
This will allow hypercore scammers to cover more of New Eden šŸ¤™ ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/69 "2020-02-22T11:36:00Z")
I like this, more of the ā€œunknownā€ makes the game exciting. This combined with blackout would be super funny. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/70 "2020-02-22T11:43:13Z")
Orā€¦ Bear with meā€¦ Take a Curse and jump in a wormhole. Same amount of fun. ---
**Author:** ![DrugsDen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drugsden/32/354590_2.png) [@DrugsDen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrugsDen)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/71 "2020-02-22T12:10:11Z")
More added ā– ā– ā– ā–  to help gankers 1st more ā– ā– ā– ā–  whs now this ā– ā– ā– ā– ! ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/72 "2020-02-22T12:43:47Z")
I donā€™t see the problem with these. Maybe Iā€™m not getting something important but as I see this it comes down to 2 possible responses: 1. ā€œI like this idea and will be using themā€ - Cool! Enjoy yourself & I am glad you like it šŸ™‚ 2. ā€œI donā€™t like this idea and will not be using themā€ - Ok cool. As you donā€™t ā€˜have toā€™ use them, have fun doing something else šŸ™‚ You have to keep in mind that the destinations are random and the numbers they will jump per time are limited so they will be for ā€œhey guys - as weā€™re all online at the same time why donā€™t we fit out some cheap ships and go run around somewhere random and have fun causing chaos until we die in a funny explosionā€. They are not ā€œtacticalā€ nor are theyā€¦ well, anything other than a way of having fun and having another option of ā€œcontentā€ to engage in. The Reindeer Filaments were very popular for this very reason and people told CCP this so, it would appear, they listened and decided that ā€œpeople really enjoyed these and want them back so why not? Sounds like funā€. Also, if you read the release it is not ā€œpurely PvPā€ based this time around. Some will drop - BUT - some will come from BPCs. Drops. From PvE. Made from BPCs - dropped in PvE and used/manufactured through Indy. Looking at it, I think this is something people wanted which has been given, in response to peopleā€™s feedback, and ā€˜tweakedā€™ (having been thought about a bit) in a way so as to include - to make necessary! - PvE in the process. All in all I think it caters to, and satisfies, a lot of the things people have been asking for. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/73 "2020-02-22T12:49:39Z")
ye gods null carebears sure do moan a lot about safety, srsly; highsec = ā€˜safezoneā€™ ---
**Author:** ![Cyrise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyrise/32/471400_2.png) [@Cyrise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyrise)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/74 "2020-02-22T13:28:55Z")
This is really bad for the game, not happy at all while being PVP oriented player. Itā€™s circumventing the game mechanics. People should not be lazy. You can scan a drifter hole with like 40 null connections and pretty much already surprice different regions in an instantā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/75 "2020-02-22T14:02:29Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/4/34f72791f589d9b32ec2aa0beb9b15930a1f5c41.png) > [@Cyrise](#): > > being PVP oriented player mhm ye sure Your more of a krab than eugene krabā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/76 "2020-02-22T14:52:44Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > mhm ye sure > Your more of a krab than eugene krabā€¦ That thing you do on one of your other characters. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/77 "2020-02-22T15:12:09Z")
nope. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/78 "2020-02-22T15:17:25Z")
To be fair if you PvP in Null you never loose any sec status, and reaching 5 doesnā€™t seem that long, without the status I sometimes loose in Low I would be at ~1.5 already without having done that much PvE, Iā€™ve done like 8 combat sites (in Null) and a few security mission (in High). ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/79 "2020-02-22T15:24:15Z")
you mean if you join lots of big fleets and dont really actually pvp? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/80 "2020-02-22T15:36:07Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > nope. Of course. > [@Lugburz](#): > > you mean if you join lots of big fleets and dont really actually pvp? You have a disturbed idea what pvp means, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Cyrise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyrise/32/471400_2.png) [@Cyrise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyrise)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/81 "2020-02-22T15:38:12Z")
This is the whole reason I donā€™t pvp in low and stopped ganking. Sometimes I do have a fight in lowsec but thats more if something happens when passing through. And yes I do krab in between doing fleets. This is not even my main. You need to have isk to buy ships to do pvp in. But I accept donations to if that makes Lugburz feel better. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230.md?page=5)