# New Permanent Needlejack Filaments | EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 21, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230 "2020-02-21T19:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Cyrise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyrise/32/471400_2.png) [@Cyrise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyrise)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/102 "2020-02-23T09:27:54Z")
You don’t need to, they added connectivity, so there are a lot drifter holes. Such holes have like 40 static null connections, you can already drop everywhere but you do need to scan the holes. The problem I have with the fillaments its thats its circumventing game mechanics, you can skip gate camps etc. But also if you are camped in you bounce around untill timers are gone, stack up and use a fillament to escape. ---
**Author:** ![Mira\_Chieve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mira_chieve/32/383155_2.png) [@Mira\_Chieve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mira_Chieve)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/103 "2020-02-23T09:32:47Z")
I came for the NS tears, and left disappointed. Maybe they all already unsubbed 🤔 Also I find it quite funny that someone with 80 solo kills during the span of a few years would call themselves “pvp oriented”. I´ll give it to you that these DO circumvent game mechanics, but: 1: gatecampers are 99 percent trash only looking for an easy gank and not an actual fight, so they can get f_cked 2: those who camp roamers in with supers can get f_cked as well No content of value was lost ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/104 "2020-02-23T09:37:02Z")
> [@Adam\_Lowder](#): > > Alot of people are leaving, it’s pretty much why they made this change. > [@Adam\_Lowder](#): > > because it’s so void of people actually trying to fight without 200 people alongside them anymore that it’s near impossible to come across a fun fight So a LOT of people are leaving, and its because there are so FEW people who want a sub fleet fight? Why dont they fight each other? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/105 "2020-02-23T09:40:41Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > So a LOT of people are leaving, and its because there are so FEW people who want a sub fleet fight? Some solutions are so simple. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/106 "2020-02-23T11:08:38Z")
eh? good name for you; bet you tell a lot of fairy tales. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/107 "2020-02-23T11:10:34Z")
> [@Cyrise](#): > > Such holes have like 40 static null connections HAHAHAHA wait.. do you actually believe that?? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/108 "2020-02-23T11:11:31Z")
This thread is like debating what colour an object is with a blind person… ---
**Author:** ![Ultimate\_Acer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ultimate_acer/32/168308_2.png) [@Ultimate\_Acer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ultimate_Acer)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/109 "2020-02-23T11:34:09Z")
Looking forward to fun fights in 0.0 better than those skillfull blue cynos/scouts guiding in logged off arazus and poping logged of supers for a quick kill. I rather fight 25bs or cruisers in my Rorqual or super with a small HD fleet than the other crap. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/110 "2020-02-23T12:49:20Z")
Both original and hilarious. What a true wit you are. Additionally, they way you have been deftly dealing with the points here in a constructive and knowledgeable way is impressive. Well done, here’s a biscuit. ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/111 "2020-02-23T12:56:02Z")
Great news. I wasn’t able to try them out over Christmas so I’m looking forward have a chance to give them a shot. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/112 "2020-02-23T13:01:24Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > they way you have been deftly dealing with the points here in a constructive and knowledgeable way is impressive. Thankyou. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/113 "2020-02-23T13:59:26Z")
What exactly is the counter to this ? ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/114 "2020-02-23T14:04:10Z")
Maybe yeet his mining fleet into amamake ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/115 "2020-02-23T17:18:26Z")
> [@Adam\_Lowder](#): > > can’t say it or the recent market dumpsterfire make me wanna come back I don’t really care, bye, kid! ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/116 "2020-02-23T19:03:32Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > What a true wit you are. You forgot to include the “nit” … ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/117 "2020-02-23T19:04:14Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > What exactly is the counter to this ? Guess. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/118 "2020-02-23T19:09:52Z")
Project Discovery? ---
**Author:** ![Ultimate\_Acer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ultimate_acer/32/168308_2.png) [@Ultimate\_Acer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ultimate_Acer)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/119 "2020-02-23T19:11:37Z")
HD fleet. Max of 25 enemys with no reinforcements. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/120 "2020-02-24T05:36:28Z")
what is a counter to a roaming gang? the same thing as always for you … run and dock? stand and fight? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Umbrella\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_umbrella_man/32/188392_2.png) [@The\_Umbrella\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Umbrella_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230/121 "2020-02-24T20:49:57Z")
Bring on the Wrecking Machine! Rorqual nerf, ore spawn nerfs, moon goo nerfs, permanent filaments, bring back null-sec black-out and slaughter them all! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-permanent-needlejack-filaments-eve-online/221230.md?page=7)