# New player intro tutorial, absolutely awful, no wonder EvE isn't able to gain new players. Disgraceful how this was signed off **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 20, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265 "2022-08-20T19:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/22 "2022-08-21T00:30:34Z")
Honestly we may disagree with a lot of what CCP does. But I think we can all agree. EVE looks pretty darn beautiful! LOL Have you seen an EVE ad OP @NickyYo ? One of the factors that pulled me in was how beautiful EVE was cinematically. The scope news videos look awesome. It’s amazing how someone can enter in this game as an alpha and experience the detail EVE has. The graphics here in EVE are only rivaled by few games. We can contrast EVE to what Star Trek Online is… EVE has 2022 graphics… STO has graphics probably at or before 2010. ---
**Author:** ![Shama\_Olgidar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shama_olgidar/32/514019_2.png) [@Shama\_Olgidar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shama_Olgidar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/23 "2022-08-21T00:33:28Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > We can contrast EVE to what Star Trek Online is… EVE has 2022 graphics… STO has graphics probably at or before 2010. EVE vs STO, is like Apples to Oranges… I play both, be for different reasons… ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/24 "2022-08-21T00:36:35Z")
> [@Shama\_Olgidar](#): > > EVE vs STO, is like Apples to Oranges… Yah I know the comparison is lacking. I sometimes imangine what STO could be if it had a modern engine and graphics from COD/EVE! It’s what happens when a game moves to free to play vs a subscription. EVE left STO in the dust graphics wise. 🥲 ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/25 "2022-08-21T00:42:09Z")
> [@thirstme](#): > > so many people come here to the forums to complain and rubbish the work ccp does on every level. Constructive criticism should be welcomed. If CCP had listened to its players a whole lot more the game would be different now. > [@thirstme](#): > > they still log on every day though I bet,to the game that’s so bad, and horrible lol How about the ones who _don’t even_ play at all? I wonder what they’re even doing on this forum… ---
**Author:** ![thirstme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thirstme/32/334512_2.png) [@thirstme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/thirstme)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/26 "2022-08-21T00:44:14Z")
I’ll tell you what they’re doing here, they’re coming to complain. you can’t listen to everyone, as everyone has different ideas and they can’t be all implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/27 "2022-08-21T00:50:47Z")
> [@thirstme](#): > > you can’t listen to everyone, as everyone has different ideas and they can’t be all implemented True. But we do have a CSM… if it means anything at least they can push good ideas up to CCP. Of course, it has to fall in CCP 's plans, whatever they are. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/28 "2022-08-21T01:01:03Z")
> [@NickyYo](#): > > the immersion is totally thrown off when the american accents come in Yah, American accents ruin everything. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/29 "2022-08-21T01:20:25Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-player-intro-tutorial-absolutely-awful-no-wonder-eve-isnt-able-to-gain-new-players-disgraceful-how-this-was-signed-off/374265/30 "2022-08-21T01:20:40Z")
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