# New safe space where no one would dare to shoot you down **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [November 20, 2017, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645 "2017-11-20T08:14:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![AJ\_Osiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aj_osiris/32/73427_2.png) [@AJ\_Osiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AJ_Osiris)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/81 "2017-12-04T06:37:40Z")
My suggestion for having ability to run sites w/out other players in the site. This could be on the first come, first to have rights to site, basis. This does NOT stop people OUTSIDE of SITES. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/82 "2017-12-04T07:36:28Z")
> [@AJ\_Osiris](#): > > Perhaps if you were NEVER able to undock any time ever, you would be upset after setting up your 90th alt or account in an attempt to play the game What? I don’t gank. I play EVE mostly in low and null (check my killboard, which is an easy thing to do to check whether what you are about to write makes any sense). As a lowsec/nullsec player, your idea of infinite safety for ratting carriers is totally against what the game represents. Now, to the bit of your post about reasoning the suggestion, might be a good place to start. Unfortunately the suggestion lacks any reasoning to think about. It’s just a suggestion with no justifying information at all. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/83 "2017-12-04T07:45:26Z")
In other words utopia is worse that useless it is an existential threat. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/84 "2017-12-04T07:46:51Z")
> [@AJ\_Osiris](#): > > You do realize that this suggestion (as stated) STILL ALLOWS GANKERS to be able to gank. > > So how about no, you refuse to reason or suggest any alternative. > > Perhaps if you were NEVER able to undock any time ever, you would be upset after setting up your 90th alt or account in an attempt to play the game. You get the point now? how about no Is it just me or does this sound like incoherent ramblings? ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/85 "2017-12-04T07:47:37Z")
exactly, u got it right 🐺 & 🐑 ---
**Author:** ![Jint\_Hikaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jint_hikaru/32/387656_2.png) [@Jint\_Hikaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jint_Hikaru)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/86 "2017-12-04T09:02:18Z")
> [@AJ\_Osiris](#): > > How about a new deployable that can only be used in sites/missions etc, that stops others from being able to join you without your permission? > > Would that be a Reasonable Option everyone? > > This still allows for pirates to try to gank when you leave the site! Did some nasty piwate come and salvage your wrecks… did they inappropriately touch your space cans? My guess is they took your can loot, went suspect, but you were too scared… because ‘its a trap’ (Akbar voice)… and rather than do something about it yourself, you figured that crying to CCP to make mission space instanced and protected would be the solution. ---
**Author:** ![Takari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/takari/32/430011_2.png) [@Takari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Takari)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/87 "2017-12-04T11:03:33Z")
Stupid mobile site getting me lost ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/88 "2017-12-04T11:08:34Z")
You’ve replied to the wrong person. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Takari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/takari/32/430011_2.png) [@Takari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Takari)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/89 "2017-12-04T11:11:43Z")
> Perhaps if you were NEVER able to undock any time ever, you would be upset after setting up your 90th alt or account in an attempt to play the game. You get the point now? Did they make a way to disable another player’s undock button? I don’t understand what you mean here. Everyone can undock. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/90 "2017-12-04T13:24:38Z")
Well no. Having your mission invaded is part of the sandbox. Can’t just mission risk free during a dec because you put down a deployable before they could warp to you. Pay attention. People hunting you or looking to steal your loot makes content. That content drives the game. Players that are interacted with non-consensually reportedly stay with the game longer than those that aren’t. The last thing we want to do is isolate players from eachother. ---
**Author:** ![Manwithdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manwithdog/32/255036_2.png) [@Manwithdog](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manwithdog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/91 "2017-12-05T14:25:57Z")
We will make a deal with you , concord response times and power greatly increased in the 1.0 systems , But , Low sec gets greatly expanded with multiple high sec systems become 0.4 and below , overall highsec is smaller but with better security , but there are ZERO high sec routes between empires , LETS SHAKE THINGS UP BOI’S ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/92 "2017-12-05T15:53:59Z")
> [@Kieron\_VonDeux](#): > > CCP sided with the more hardcore “bored” players to gain the “edgy game” image and the rest was history. And this thinking resulted in massive success and a unique game in a sea of drivel. No problem I think we can all agree, even if some scrubs can’t hack it. That is until they started listening to carebears… ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/93 "2017-12-05T16:36:38Z")
> [@Manwithdog](#): > > We will make a deal with you , concord response times and power greatly increased in the 1.0 systems , But , Low sec gets greatly expanded with multiple high sec systems become 0.4 and below , overall highsec is smaller but with better security , but there are ZERO high sec routes between empires , LETS SHAKE THINGS UP BOI’S Careful, this might not work like you think it will… ---
**Author:** ![Manwithdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manwithdog/32/255036_2.png) [@Manwithdog](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manwithdog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/94 "2017-12-05T18:25:43Z")
It would definitely make your day more interesting ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/95 "2017-12-05T19:46:36Z")
Maybe…or maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/96 "2017-12-06T13:08:28Z")
It would make your day a gatecamp. ---
**Author:** ![AJ\_Osiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aj_osiris/32/73427_2.png) [@AJ\_Osiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AJ_Osiris)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/97 "2017-12-06T17:23:18Z")
For the people that scan sites, how about being able to choose if other players can join in the site. This could be determined by whomever is first to arrive at site location. By expanding on the idea of PvE more people would be eager to subscribe to game. So those inevitable complainers about this site idea can complain about Alphas then too. ---
**Author:** ![AJ\_Osiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aj_osiris/32/73427_2.png) [@AJ\_Osiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AJ_Osiris)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/98 "2017-12-06T17:27:39Z")
Being able to run a site and have the authority to choose which other people can join the site is a far better way to get more people eager to subscribe to game than the Alpha free play system. So you can still gank away when not in site location. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/99 "2017-12-06T19:03:59Z")
Except it’s not. CCP’s own statistics and monitoring show you’re more likely to quit the game if you aren’t involved in some unexpected PVP than if you are. Reason being, you get bored. “Oh… this mission. Again. So… fun?.. wait… it’s not fun. Unsub.” VS “Oh… this mission. Ag–■■■■ ME! God damnit, what the ■■■■ just happened.” \<— it’s spicy. ---
**Author:** ![AJ\_Osiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aj_osiris/32/73427_2.png) [@AJ\_Osiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AJ_Osiris)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645/100 "2017-12-06T19:08:41Z")
There is no such thing as a person not involved in some unexpected PVP!! Don’t make up statistics - I can do that too. example - 90% of all statistics are made up seconds before stated HAHA I can make your point for you - You just don’t want a player to be able to run sites in your Sov w/out your authority. Right? hypocrite let it go. My idea is meant to Replace the Alpha method of getting people to pay to play. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-safe-space-where-no-one-would-dare-to-shoot-you-down/40645.md?page=6)