# New T3 industrial ships for low, nullsec and wh

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 7, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174 "2020-03-07T05:30:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/42 "2020-05-14T12:13:16Z")

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> [@Specailist\_Spex](#):
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> But the fact remains your not giving industrial new ship. Your still using combat

It is you’re or you are, FFS!

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/43 "2020-05-14T12:15:47Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Id like a ship that could do actual INDUSTRY on the move, that would be cool.
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> You know, the stuff that isnt mining or shooting.
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> But with some shooting slots too, you know, for fun.

A production ship! During battle you can produce new ships and create the never ending battle (except for downtime).

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/44 "2020-05-14T12:33:47Z")

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A BaseStar… I mean BattleStar for example

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/2/420007ad441d3ce5f763bfbdf8fab521ea365e8c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Nordak\_Balrem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nordak_balrem/32/200160_2.png) [@Nordak\_Balrem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nordak_Balrem)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/45 "2020-05-14T12:47:41Z")

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> [@Specailist\_Spex](#):
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> You know to further the question of why we need one… we dont. With this new rebalance of mineral and the ever increase for content. the change of pase would be great for the industrial side of the house which get forgotten about more often then not. It would be nice to see something good come out. that benifits the little guys that struggle with gankers in hisec, the gangs of lowsec and again the only real threat to nullsec is wingspan/dreadbombs. A tactical mining barge/ and a T3 industrial command ship would make mining alot more interesting.

Check EVE’s latest twitch videos, they have shown off a precursor industrial ship, wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to expect precursor mining ships.

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/46 "2020-05-23T07:02:52Z")

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Here’s your T3 miner  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/2/92ce901f7b4eb3278be1e8d65232f0b26a1d187f.gif)

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**Author:** ![Choose\_Your\_Maime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choose_your_maime/32/475285_2.png) [@Choose\_Your\_Maime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choose_Your_Maime)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/47 "2020-05-23T11:23:23Z")

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your wron your is in the dictonari now it has been for lon time.

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**Author:** ![Orchidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orchidia/32/254213_2.png) [@Orchidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orchidia)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/48 "2020-05-23T21:30:29Z")

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great for gas mining storage off grid and a few alts of huffers

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/49 "2020-05-24T00:06:48Z")

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![spaceballseagle5_0021_layer1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/f/0f2200f9ea02a4370d7caabe718b19b133ac4927.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/50 "2020-05-24T03:24:31Z")

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@OP  
What would be the point of a T3 barge/exhumer?  
Why is such a thing needed?  
If you can not adapt or learn to play then you die…sometimes slowly, sometimes in the blink of a single tick.

When the moons had regular ore, Ive seen 6 players multibox a fleet of procs and kill 28 million m3 in just 4 hours…  
Did they have tank? yes  
Did they have yield? yes  
Did they have boosts? yes  
Did they have firepower? should of seen their drone ball.

On the other hand though…  
customizable Barges and exhumers, if I was a Dev i would take all the current ones away, then produce this supposed T3 looks from those designs based on how you fit your ship. There you go, now everyone gets 1 single barge/exhumer ship to use…ever. (oh definitely no Alpha useage)

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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximilian_wulffe/32/210326_2.png) [@Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximilian_Wulffe)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/51 "2020-05-24T03:28:17Z")

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Similarly to the OP I want a frigate that has the same amount of slots and the same tanking numbers as a Marauder but because we’ll call it a T3 it must have a covert cloak and do double the DPS of that Marauder, with frigate type tracking and damage application.

Obviously it needs the mobility of an inty, I mean if it’s going to cost a bit it better be good right.

It’ll be GREAT!

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**Author:** ![Amariancitizen\_55667](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amariancitizen_55667/32/462522_2.png) [@Amariancitizen\_55667](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amariancitizen_55667)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/52 "2020-05-27T06:23:15Z")

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Its funny to see people talk about power creep, yes mining ships have had power creep. first there were only cruisers, then much later there were barges and exhumes then industry command ships (orca porpoise) then capital industry (rorq) ok so there are what 12 ships in the mining/industry family. power creep in the combat side of things has been a little more rampant so how about you stfu about power creep.

As for t3 mining ships this is a terrible idea completely unnecessary, I’m all for removing rorqs too btw, or removing all drone ability and make them command burst ships with the ability to compress.

The only mining ship that could do with a little love is possible the porpoise only because why would you use one if you can use an orca.

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**Author:** ![Yalezorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yalezorn/32/195555_2.png) [@Yalezorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yalezorn)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/53 "2020-05-27T13:21:46Z")

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It’s a beautiful substitute for the orca.

I’ve gotten off grid seconds ahead of incoming hostiles with a porpoise, while an orca would have easily been caught and died.

Your inability to handle different situations is not CCPs problem.

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**Author:** ![Hibra\_Tzash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hibra_tzash/32/467939_2.png) [@Hibra\_Tzash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hibra_Tzash)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/54 "2020-06-10T21:44:04Z")

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Saying “Eve is not for you” because you don’t want to be part of a fleet when you mine is just ■■■■■■ imo. People play however they please and if they have a suggestion to make the game more fun for themselves, playing the way they play, there’s nothing wrong with that.  
PvP folks on reddit do that a whole lot, and CCP has its ears perked up for them, no? So I guess there’s no harm in trying.

About the t3, I’d gladly risk my mining skills for flying one, adds more risk to the isk I’m flying and that’s what makes the game fun for me (sometimes.)  
It doesn’t have to be as versatile as a t3c out there atm, hell, they don’t even have to be customizable. just give them a t3d setup, with maybe just 2 modes, 30 seconds cooldown so you can’t just go from “more yield” mode to “less align/sig radius/whatever” mode in the blink of an eye. I’d happily brainstorm for hours about possibilities here, there’s a lot that can be done.  
At the moment, the latest patch has casual miners give up on mining, and capital multiboxing magnates just double up on it. The divide between those making ships and those blowing them up is widening…  
A good mining pilot just has to keep an eye on local…maybe a t3 miner ship could bring some flair to mining.

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/55 "2020-06-10T22:01:28Z")

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Has a point, interesting idea - a t3d version of a mining barge - or a bastion/siege mode - increases range/yield/defence at the expense of being stuck in one place unable to warp away… mini mini rorqual

Hmm

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/56 "2020-06-10T22:11:13Z")

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The ship should be stuck on the rock until the asteroid is depleted.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/57 "2020-06-10T22:19:37Z")

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> [@Hibra\_Tzash](#):
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> there’s a lot that can be done.

I sincerly doubt that

> [@Hibra\_Tzash](#):
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> At the moment, the latest patch has casual miners give up on mining, and capital multiboxing magnates just double up on it. The divide between those making ships and those blowing them up is widening…

Thats how it will appear if you concentrate on the two lame extremes of any activity to the exclusion of all other possibilities.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/58 "2020-06-10T22:20:22Z")

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Why even mining ships? Just have mining stations.

Heck why even mine, just have ore appear

Why even

Wheeven

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/59 "2020-06-10T22:20:51Z")

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Because mission runners are a lot harder to catch.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/60 "2020-06-11T01:05:17Z")

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> [@Specailist\_Spex](#):
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> Why havent we heard about T3 mining barges or T3 industrial command ships.

Probably because there have not been enough threads started asking for T3 this and T3 that.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-t3-industrial-ships-for-low-nullsec-and-wh/224174/61 "2020-06-11T02:43:39Z")

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How does this thread keep getting necroed? It already died once, twice and yet keeps coming back for more punishment…

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